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Jobs Rips Android RIM everything not IOS

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  1. beefyy

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  2. Martimus

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    Rivalry is almost always a good thing... :cool:

    In terms of the article Job's words are exactly the type of incendiary rhetoric that one would expect from Steve Jobs.

    The statement of his that made me laugh the most was in his comparison of screen sizes between the iPad and the upcoming crop of 7-inch Android tablets. Hr makes no mention, whatsoever, of the 10-inch Android tablets coming to market. According to Steve, the 7-inch diagonal screen on the Android tablets only provides 45% of the screen real estate that his near 10-inch tablets provide. To quote my niece Mr. Mis-information, er, Jobs: "Duh!!". :rolleyes:
     
  3. Vihzel

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    Steve Jobs is the most loved and the most hated person in the technological industry, I assume.
     
  4. Roze

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    Steve Jobs simply is a very selective man. He picks and choose to see what he wants to see and not those that are unappealing to him. This kind of mentality (ignoring strength and downplaying the competition) might hurt his company later on. The only issue with his statements is that, people that follow him will take them as truth.

    Anyways, I'm not surprise with Apple's earning for Q3. They had TWO new hyped products released to the market. The damn iPhone 4 is still bloody hard to get...months after its release! I like the iPhone 4 more than its predecessors, so I can understand the hype and high demand..maybe.
     
  5. Makani

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    My latest blog post talking about Steve Job's criticism of the Galaxy Tab and his surprisingly accurate depiction of developers like me:

    Steve Jobs taking shots at Samsung

    Makani
     
  6. jbuck1984

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    Jobs Rips Google Android Open Model as Smokescreen - Mobile and Wireless from eWeek

    What an article, he is actually trying to say that Android is not open and defragmentation is some huge problem. Jobs is flat out lying to people. He attempts to prove his theory by using tweetdeck's interesting graphs on usage of the multiple phones, however tweetback fired back and put Job's in his place

    I love the desperation, I love the concern, I love seeing Iphones become second rated.

    Since when has variety been a flaw.....

    ****Mods, I am really only looking for the opinion of incredible users so I kindly ask that you do not move this thread.
     
  7. tommy_ed

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    i actually agree with a lot of the points he made in that conference. 7" just seems too small for a tablet. and he also made a good point about the android interface being different between each phone unlike windows which is the same on all computers. I actually like that about android, but it does make it confusing for some people.
     
  8. SeattleYanksFan

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    I couldn't care less what Steve Jobs has to say about Android. That's like asking Bill Gates what he thinks of Mac OS.

    The only reason Jobs would feel the need to go on such a ridiculous tirade is if he genuinely felt threatened by Android. Clearly he does. Clearly he should.
     
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  9. jbuck1984

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    I hear you, but the odd thing is, I have way more respect for Microsoft than I do apple. Something about his leadership that gets my hear racing.
     
  10. Mischka7

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    Agreed. But to the OP, the iPhone will never be a second-rate phone, regardless of what anyone says.
     
  11. SeattleYanksFan

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    They bother me in equal amounts, but in different ways. Apple makes excellent products, I just can't stand the "holier than thou" mentality at the top.

    This is true. The iPhone 4 is a fantastic device. I just prefer Android.
     
  12. incredible x4

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    In Job's bashing of Android, he gives an excellent definition of what "open" means. 1 basic version of software running on a variety of different hardware, most offering a different experience through different UIs.

    He also highlights, what I believe to be, the main difference between Android users and Iphone users. Iphone users want a phone that just works. They don't want to have to worry about if an app didn't close right and will kill their battery life. Or have to remember how to load files to it without a dedicated desktop client like iTunes. They want it to just do it without them having to think about how to do it ,if that makes sense. But, in having this uber-user-friendly experience, you have to give up a lot of customization options that some users want. This is because adding these options would take away from the user-friendliness of the software.

    This is where Android comes in. It allows the more tech-savy users who want more customization to have the more options they want. But it also makes the software a little harder to use to the non-tech-savy people. It also allows the handset manufacturers to run wild, which is why we see the massive number of handsets on the market today and the kind of fragmentation we see. They can customize the software to run on a certain handset and to customize a handset to run a certain version of the software. They can also customize the software to run the way they want and look the way they want. This also allows the end user to customize it however they want. Don't like how the manufacturer changed the software? Ok. Root your phone, blow the stock stuff away, and load a new ROM.

    The only reason why iOS is ahead of Android right now is because of its user base and ease of use. And yes, I do believe this. Its ease of use made it very accessable to the majority of the population who are not very tech-savy. This made the user base very large and developers see a huge money making opportunity. It also was designed from the get-go to be easy to use. But Android is catching up. With the UIs developed by the manufacturers, it has made Android more accessable to a less tech-savy crowd. If Google ever creates a dedicated desktop client for Android, we will probably see the number of users skyrocket. I actually see this as the next big step for Google as the Android user base grows, and if they really want to put a hurt on Apple. It will probably make the diehards angry, but Google would make this client so you do not have to use it, like you have to do with iOS and iTunes.

    And this article does sound like Jobs is getting scared. Android is growing. Its getting easier to use. The hardware running Android will soon surpass his iPhone, which is a difficult task itself. More and more people are leaving iPhone for Android. I think he's starting to see the writing in the wall. The "i" fad is starting to come to a close, and he is starting to get worried. It will be fun to see him when the Android tablets really start to take off. That should be interesting.

    (Longest post in the history of forever)
     
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    I read the article and while I personally hate Job's approach towards pretty much anything he does have a point. There are so many variations on android which makes it very unique but I'm sure it can pose a problem to developers
     
  14. theslik1

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    +1 and +1. While Jobs is the driving force behind Apple, he really shouldn't get in front of crowds when the news is bad.

    iPhone4 antenna debacle > Knee-jerk blame-the-customers then offer a half-hearted fix when the press turns bad.

    iPad sales below targets > Lash out at any and all competition as if they have no right to exist.

    Pathetic.

    It's not second-rate, but it's also no longer the best. There's better hardware available and iOS doesn't seem so slick anymore; the only clear advantage are the apps and that gap is narrowing daily.
     
  15. AGWednesday

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    Actually, for the most part, the fragmentation problem for developers is a myth. Android makes it very easy for devs to take into account the different kinds of hardware available on the market.
     
  16. Snow_Fox

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    7" is too small today..

    galaxy s does better than jobs expects..

    6" ipad nano tomarrow.
     
  17. Hrethgir

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    I'm just waiting to read in the news that Jobs was arrested for throwing rocks at Googles headquarters building while yelling "GET OFF OF MY LAWN!!!!!"
     
  18. LoyalServant

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    Why are we listening to Jobs again?

    Already the media has picked his whole speech apart, and made Jobs look like an angry kid that had his lollipop taken away.

    Look at the Tweetdeck CEO.... Jobs quoted them as saying android was 'a nightmare' yet he said no such thing and actually implied that fragmentation is a non-issue.

    Jobs is a grin... let him keep lashing out and making a fool of himself.
    We don't need to help him out, he is doing very well by himself.
     
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  19. Snow_Fox

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    Thats actually a pretty good point..

    When someone is doing a good job making an ass of theirself why get in their way?
     
  20. beefyy

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    what drives me a little crazy is all this talk of fragmentation. the only way to avoid fragmentation with apple products is to continue to buy the newest version ... every year!
     

  21. Not quite. Apple provides support for their products.
     
  22. ekyle

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    Why not, he lied about how if you hold any phone it loses signal. Why not about this too?
     
  23. IOWA

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    Honestly, I've been looking for a 7" tablet. That seems just right to me.
     
  24. IOWA

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    Sort of like how NOT EVEN ONE of the iPhones runs the SAME EXACT version of iOS? They are all different, although the 3gs vs iP4 is very minor, but they still aren't EXACTLY the same.
     
  25. ekyle

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    I'll be all over the Galaxy, especially so I can just bring that to class to take notes. I hope the price will be right for the hardware.
     

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