Just had a system update on Eris??

[erisuser1]

I have the same file that gruss uploaded. 13.36mb. The md5 checksum is 503008DA4FF106E95EFB5700382BCE49 if you still needed it.

Thanks for the offer, but, being identical, his was as good as yours. I probably missed you by just a few minutes last night.

Is it safe to clear the cache folder? The files I mean, not the folders, I'm guessing the folders are important but there are several duplicate apk files in there from failed install attempts and recent updates.

Yes.

 

[Rondacks Rule]

Is anyone else seeing an improvement in battery life?

 

[stayup]

I rec'd an OTA this morning also. Not sure what enhancements were made

 

[stayup]

I rec'd and OTA this morning also. No idea what enhancements were made

 

[micallen]

So I shouldn't install it? I'm certainly intrigued by the thought of a better signal. I have issues at work, and that causes my battery to drain.

Oddly enough, under SYSTEM UPDATES: my phone says Custom Rom - System updates disabled.

 

[applejackaz]

One phone updated with no problem. The other was charging from usb during the update. A battery pull was required before it would get beyond Verison Wireless after the update completed.

Just FYI

 

[Snerch]

My phone was on the Verizon Wireless screen for a long time after the update completed. I was about to pull the battery, but it finally moved forward.

 

[sts7049]

i got the update this morning. i actually saw the notification pop up a day or two ago, but i was in a meeting all day and didn't get to address it and it disappeared. when i got up this morning i had a msg saying the phone was ready to restart and install.

 

[sts7049]

My phone was on the Verizon Wireless screen for a long time after the update completed. I was about to pull the battery, but it finally moved forward.

i had the same problem with the VZW screen.

 

[Falco73]

Received OTA update last night.

Baseband version:
2.42.01.04.27
Kernel version:
2.6.29-bcb140a0
htc-kernel@and18-2 #1
Build number:
2.41.605.6 CL335228 release-keys
Software number:
2.41.605.6

 

[micallen]

I still don't know for sure. Should I allow the OTA update if I have xtrRom 5.0 installed ???

 

[gruss]

Xtr is working on clearing that. If you install it will just fail, needs stock recovery to work.

 

[micallen]

Xtr is working on clearing that. If you install it will just fail, needs stock recovery to work.

OK, thanks. I'll try to dismiss the reminder.

 

[mmmthmtskier]

My phone was on the Verizon Wireless screen for a LOOOOOONGG TIMMMMMMME after the update completed. I was about to pull the battery, but it finally moved forward.

^^^^^
Exactly what happened to me.
Glad both of us were patient!(Edited above for emphasis, we aren't kidding here!)

 

[gruss]

OK, thanks. I'll try to dismiss the reminder.

Np. If you have root explorer you can delete the system updater apk and odex and make it ggoo away for good.

 

[Mud Pie]

I got the update this morning as well.

Unfortunately, I'll never know what was improved/changed.

Today I upgraded to an Incredible, MAN what a difference !!

I was tired of the trackball of my Eris being posessed and scrolling to where ever it wanted to, whenever it wanted to....it's done that for better part of 6 months, but I never took it in; I absolutely HATE refurbs !!

Way back when, around 2002 or so, when I had a Motorola (I used to be a die-hard Moto-Fan) LCD screen crap out on me, I went to Verizon and they gave me a new (or so I thought) phone..for free !! I was SO happy. I went home, fired it up and found about 20 text messages from a teenage girl. When I called Verizon with a WTF, they said you never get a new phone, only one that has been returned and fixed.

No refurbs for me. I've hardly heard of anyone getting one that lasts.

 

[Snerch]

Now I just have to get a Mercedes Benz E350 to see if the Bluetooth connection has improved

 

[mmmthmtskier]

I don't notice any difference other than there seems to be more signal strength bars showing now.

About the only difference I noticed as well, especially at work(used to be 1/2-1 bar but now I see as many as three bars). At home, it went from 1/2-1 bar to 2 bars, non-3G user...

 

[doogald]

Bars mean nothing - there is no standard for the number of bars displayed in the signal meter. What means something is to see if the actual signal strength has changed. Since this is the exact same radio software as was on the phone from the July update, I'd be surprised if you were actually getting a better signal.

Remember that Apple conceded last summer that the iPhone was displaying more "bars" of signal than other phones show for the same signal, and they issued an update that "corrected" this issue.

It's quite alright to say that at home my phone shows 3 bars, and at work it shows 1 bar, so I get a better signal at home. It's another thing to say that before the update my phone said that I was getting 1 bar, and now it is saying 2 bars, so now I am getting a better signal. It's possible, but the real answer is to look at the actual signal that you are showing in dBm, not the probably fake increased number of bars that the status bar shows.

 

[Ted S]

I agree Mr. doogald. I'm getting more bars but I seriously doubt the actual signal is any better. Seems to me like there were quite a few Eris owners who felt that the Eris the bars didn't accurately represent the true signal strength. Perhaps the bars now do.

Battery life doesn't seem to be any better but then I've only run it for a day or two on the new OTA. Too soon to weigh-in with certainty.

 

[Jcode]

Is anyone else seeing an improvement in battery life?

I noticed. I normally unplug my phone around 9 (lately) and by noon I have maybe 6 hours of battery if I'm lucky. Last few times its said 10. By time I get home around 4, I may have a couple hours left and still says 5-6 now.

 

[justrelaxing]

I got the update and then rooted my Eris. All seems ok. I guess I am wondering how do i go about putting applications on my SD card? That was the main reason to root. Is that why everyone else roots thier phones?

 

[erisuser1]

I got the update and then rooted my Eris. All seems ok. I guess I am wondering how do i go about putting applications on my SD card? That was the main reason to root. Is that why everyone else roots thier phones?

Well, there are about 3 or 4 ways to skin that cat. The answer you are looking for though, depends a little bit on what your motivations are. I'll ask you a couple questions in a moment, but let me answer your second question first:

There are several reasons to root; one of them is performance:
- your stock kernel will only run at 528 Mhz; your phone can probably run quite safely at a 40% higher speed (710 or 729 Mhz).
- The "JIT" technology in Froyo and Gingerbread is a definite performance improvement: on average, over a wide variety of activities, you'll see about 30% speed improvement [I}in addition to overclocking benefits[/I].

The other reason is features. Almost all of the "stock" applications in later releases of Android - the photo galleries, the music player, certainly the web browse, the email client, etc, etc are improved with better usability and features. Since there are not Froyo or Gingerbread stock ROMs for the Eris - so if you want it, you need to root.

Now back to your first question; the right answer to give you depends on what your motivations are. Do you want to "go about putting applications on my SD card" because:

Q1) Is it simply because you are running out of space for more apps on the phone? -OR-

Q2) Is it because you want to try out lots of different ROMs, and be able to restore your favorite apps quickly? -OR-

Q3) Do you need to have access to the application ".apk" files - so they can be "side-loaded" later, perhaps into a different ROM?

Q4) Do you plan on using either Froyo or Gingerbread ROMs?


The reason that these questions are important is because:

- There are methods to backup/restore *.apk phones using 3rd-party apps, especially if the phone is rooted. This is probably the most portable between Android OS releases.
Read up a little bit about the capabilities of Titanium Backup

- With a rooted phone, the entire /data/app and /system/app folders can just be copied to capture all applications on the phone - a two or three-line script would be sufficient to perform backups, if that is all you are after. It doesn't solve the "I'm running out of room" problem, though.

- There are solutions for moving apps to the SD card for Eclair (2.1) ROMs, including your "nearly stock rooted ROM" - but note they make your SD card incompatible with Froyo or Gingerbread
Read up a little bit about "apps2sd" for the Eris

- There are native Android methods in both Froyo (2.2) and Gingerbread (2.3) ROMs for moving apps to the SD card (but the apps are encrypted - not .apk files, and I'm not sure they can even be moved to another ROM). But they do alleviate the problem of "not enough space for apps in the phone's primary memory"
Read up a little bit about moving Applications to the SD card in Froyo and Gingerbread

- There are methods for alleviating space constraints in /data - the location where apps are normally stored. I believe they will work with Eclair, but perhaps not in the exact same format as is currently used in Froyo and Gingerbread ROMs.
Read up a little bit about "cache2cache" for the Eris

- When it comes to application backups, Froyo and Gingerbread have methods where all of your apps get restored to a new (Froyo or Gingerbread) phone by the Android market as soon as you boot and sign in to a new Android phone, or sign in to a (Froyo, Gingerbread) phone that has been factory reset. This substantially reduces the difficulty of moving between ROMs or phones, or recovering from a factory reset.

Finally, while it is true that a skilled dev can patch these things together into a nearly-stock rooted ROM, it requires some Unix/Linux skills, and it is probably very intimidating to a new user of Android/Linux/Unix to be able to do the necessary research and perform some of those operations.

It is probably easier to just flash a ROM that has all that stuff set up for you in the first place.

If I were you, I would do some reading here on this board about the steps and third party apps people use when they are ROM-hopping, to ease the difficulty of setting up a new ROM - things like backup & restore of:

- SMS messages
- Bookmarks
- Applications, settings & data
- Contacts (if you are using phone-only contacts, as opposed to "google" contacts)
- Email sync if you are using POP3 email (instead of Exchange or Gmail)
- Keyboard Dictionaries
- Home Page Layouts (Not possible to backup/restore with Sense, but you can with ADW and Launcher Pro)


Phew. Another novel.

If I were to condense all this down to a short paragraph, I would tell you this:

Figure out what your backup strategy is for the items above, and then make a Nandroid backup of your current ROM, and then flash GSB v1.6 to your phone. Before you do that, read up on cache2cache (to see if you need to flash it before the first boot). Then configure the whole thing in one go (flash ROM, flash gapps, flash cache2cache), and start setting up a Gingerbread ROM. The best way to start figuring out how all this works is to start trying.

eu1

 

[offanairplane]

I still don't know for sure. Should I allow the OTA update if I have xtrRom 5.0 installed ???

I am running xtr_Rom-5.0 also, and I got the update message Saturday. I hit the "remind me later" button about 3 times, and now I haven't got the update message again since Saturday.

 

[micallen]

I am running xtr_Rom-5.0 also, and I got the update message Saturday. I hit the "remind me later" button about 3 times, and now I haven't got the update message again since Saturday.

I told it to procede with the update, and it tried. Then errored out (couldn't continue). After reboot, the update message has gone away.