kit kat

[tphillips84]

Just updated my s4.. music works fine.. apps work fine! My handset is noticably quicker but other than the battery icon white and text slightly altered i dont see what else there is? i was hoping for some sort of good visual improvement.
Feeling slightly let down

 

[ironass]

It's all, "under the hood", with Android 4.4, 4.4.1 and 4.4.2. See all the changes...

Android version history - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[wtherrell]

Just read the changes. I will NOT be going to Kit Kat.
1. No access to battery stats for apps.
2. Severe restrictions on ext sd cards. Looks like they're determined to start forcing us to use the cloud instead of our own storage media.

 

[dynomot]

Just read the changes. I will NOT be going to Kit Kat.
1. No access to battery stats for apps.
2. Severe restrictions on ext sd cards. Looks like they're determined to start forcing us to use the cloud instead of our own storage media.

It would appear that KitKat varies enormously between different models of what is generically called the same phone. The Samsung Galaxy S4 (international) GT-i9505 is a very different beast to US models which are all different themselves with differing model numbers :

Verizon Galaxy S4

 

[Mr. Lucky]

Personally I think it may be some of the US carriers that have messed the firmware up adding their locked bootloaders and "bloat ware".

Which is why we root.

 

[icedtea]

just received the UPDATE PROMPT yesterday.. (mine is UN ROOTED) 402mb. .. just updated this morning. . I will give at least 1 week to observe. .. hopefully all goes well. . .so far some of my installed apps (via blue tooth was gone)

 

[Canesfan]

Loaded a new app. today and I do not have the ability to transfer it to my sD card. All the ones I had on my sD card before the update have remained there.

They keep finding new ways to "ef" us.

 

[Mr. Lucky]

They keep finding new ways to "ef" us.

Yep. This is a Marketing decision attempting to simplify Android, but I think it's just going to piss off many previously loyal Android users

 

[hansangb]

Hold on a second. Allowing any app that says "I need ext SD access" free access to every directory is also a BAD BAD idea. No operating system should allow this, EVER. The app dev's need to update the app so it can write to its own sandbox.

Is it a pain? Of course it is. But I'd rather take the hit now, rather than later.

But from what users are experiencing (apps going bye bye, until reboot?) it could have been handled better.

 

[Funderbolt]

Which is why we root.

Rooting seems like a big hassle with high risk. If it bricks on you, you're screwed.

 

[jejb]

Hold on a second. Allowing any app that says "I need ext SD access" free access to every directory is also a BAD BAD idea. No operating system should allow this, EVER. The app dev's need to update the app so it can write to its own sandbox.

Is it a pain? Of course it is. But I'd rather take the hit now, rather than later.

But from what users are experiencing (apps going bye bye, until reboot?) it could have been handled better.

If it was so BAD, why do they still allow apps free access to every directory on the internal storage?

 

[hansangb]

If it was so BAD, why do they still allow apps free access to every directory on the internal storage?

My guess would be because it would break so many things. I'd be willing to bet we'll get there eventually.

 

[jejb]

My guess would be because it would break so many things. I'd be willing to bet we'll get there eventually.

I'd think they'd get it all done at once if security was the real concern, which I doubt it was. A lot of people are speculating that the real reason is to drive more folks to use Google and Samsung cloud services. Not sure if that's true, but it certainly makes more sense than this lame excuse, in light of still allowing full internal memory access.

 

[icedtea]

and with Kitkat.. Android OS is a bit on top. . .

 

[hansangb]

I'd think they'd get it all done at once if security was the real concern, which I doubt it was. A lot of people are speculating that the real reason is to drive more folks to use Google and Samsung cloud services. Not sure if that's true, but it certainly makes more sense than this lame excuse, in light of still allowing full internal memory access.

But each app can still use the SD card (external). And I was very happy that google music allowed storing music on the the external SD card. That saved my internal storage. I guess time will tell.

 

[jejb]

But each app can still use the SD card (external).

Yes, if they're updated/designed to. But my point was about the supposed reason for the change, security. If it's unsecure to allow apps full access to everything on the external SD, why is it okay to allow full access to the internal storage? Just makes no sense.