Likely switching from the iPhone to EVO in NYC


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  1. Moog Liberation

    Moog Liberation Member This Topic's Starter

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    I just joined the forum (actually typing this up on an iPhone 3G, ha) and I'm highly considering making the switch. At first I just wanted out because AT&T's network is so god awful in NYC but when I started to look into the phones and plans I got a little excited about it. With my girlfriends discount we can get a pretty phenomnal deal when compared to AT&T and Android defenitly has some perks when compared to iOS. Anyways, I had a few questions I was hoping you guys could help me out. Thanks.

    First off, my girlfriend is concerned that the quality of the service won't be any better. Can anybody speak to the quality of voice and data services in Manhattan? I'd ask a friend but I honestly don't know anybody on the network in NYC. Just to clarify, I'm referring to the 3G network.

    Were any of you former iPhone users also mac users? My only real concerns with switching phones is how well the iPhone syncs up with my mac. I know it's not possible for Android to totally stack up but I'm just wondering if it offers anything decent on the syncing front. Is there any kind of front end software? How do you get music on this beast?
     

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    I have used Sprint for the last 7 years in NYC. I'm on Roosevelt Island and I'm in Manhattan on a daily basis. I have not run into any issues with my 3G in Manhattan but obviously there will be certain places it won't work ie: Subways). Once 4G is rolled out in NYC you will see a drastic improvement in the connection speed. The only problem is your battery life will diminish greatly. So unless you carry an extra charger with you or extra batteries, you might not be able to abuse the 4G experience. The good thing is there are aftermarket batteries on eBay that I bought. 2 1500mah batteries with a battery dock for $10. The batteries work great. I can set the phone to max settings and just sync every 5 minutes and switch batteries all day long without an issue. Makes the phone so much better.

    To sync, you just need to download HTC Sync which is available on Sprint's website. It will sync contacts and calendars only. No applications like the iPhone. However there are many free applications on the Android market that can do this for you. Also the Android Marketplace remembers what apps you have downloaded. So you can just redownload if you reset your phone.

    To get music onto the phone, all you do is connect it to your PC with the USB cable that comes with the phone, 4 options will appear on the phone, select Disk Drive. Explore the new "Removable Disk" that appears under "My Computer" and then copy your music into the "Music" folder. Once you're done, safely remove the disk from Windows first then switch to "Charge only" on the phone. Thats it. Sounds like a lot but it takes like 5 seconds to do lol.
     
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    I had an iPhone 2G some time ago, Android syncing is not as stupidly easy as iTunes, but it's not difficult. There many options, DoubleTwist will let you sync your iTunes playlists to your android device for example. I use a paid app on my phone called TuneSync that wirelessly syncs playlists from iTunes to my phone. It needs a server running in the background on your desktop, iTunes running, and for your phone to be connected to the same wireless network. You can also use winamp, or just drag and drop files to your mounted SD card.

    Sprint has a 30 day return policy, you can try the phone and network out for that time and see if it is acceptable. If it's not what you hoped, return the phone(s) and cancel your plan, and you won't be penalized. If you can afford it, just keep your AT&T plan going for a bit and make a direct comparison in all the areas you frequent, then transfer your numbers later if you are happy.
     
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    moving basic MP3 music files ... is simple as drag and drop files and folders. The SDcard on the Phone is treated like a flash drive. Very Simple.

    If you music files are apple files... there are free apps on market to convert (this is what I have heard).

    google has free backup and sync to the google cloud.
     
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    This is good advice. If you can afford to leave your iphone up for a couple weeks while you decide, then you can either cancel att or decide against sprint.

    And like they said, the phone connects to a computer and can be selected as a removable drive. Music and photos is super easy.

    I have a Mac, and used an iPhone for almost two years. I know how easy it is. I havent yet done any backups with my Evo, but so far it looks simple. I used to be a huge iPhone fanboy, and have convinced many friends to switch over to an iPhone over the last couple of years.

    Now owning the HTC Evo, I just love it. Obviously, they'll both have their ups and downs. But I researched for 3 weeks nonstop on choosing between the iPhone 4 and the Evo, and i chose the Evo.

    So go test drive the phone and good luck with you and your girlfriends choice!
     
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    I'm like you.... I switched.from the 3g to the EVO 1 week.ago and don't regret it one bit. I use an imac exclusively and I sync my music.with doubletwist (its horrendously slow but it gets the job done)...

    There are apps that let you backup your phone easily... The only issue I.can see that you'll have is the sync time with doubletwist... it takes about 45 min for a few hundred mb's.
     
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    Sorry, dp
     
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    Moog Liberation Member This Topic's Starter

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    My iPhone was being a pain in the ass and I had to submit that post without finishing, sorry.

    Is this $100 credit for porting a number to Sprint legit? Does it get credited to your account or do they send you some kind of check? If I have four lines on a family plan, could I theoretically get $400?

    https://www.sprintportcredit.com/
     
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    This credit only applies to business-owned phone numbers, not phone lines owned by individuals; and employee programs don't count either.
     
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    Moog Liberation Member This Topic's Starter

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    45 minutes? Holy crap. If I just drag and drop does it go any faster? I'm surprised Google doesn't have some kind of front end to manage everything.
     
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    Wow. iSyncr pulled over 16GB of iTunes music for me in about 20 mins.
     
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    Moog Liberation Member This Topic's Starter

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    When you say apple files do you mean files downloaded from the iTunes store or files in the apple format?

    Thanks guys, this isall great stuff.
     
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    Moog Liberation Member This Topic's Starter

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    So I guess I'm a little curious about the state of the 4G network too. I've seen that people have commented on seeing it with weak signals at various place around the city (mostly queens and BK it seems). I've heard the promises of 4G sometime this year but do we have any more info than that available?
     
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    Nope. Just what you said of an end of the year release date. I caught a weak 4G signal near Le Cirque on 58th and 3rd/Lex. Killed my battery PRETTY quickly lol
     
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    I think he meant if the format is in AAC.
     
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    My approach to Wimax was that it was a great added feature, but not a necessity. I'm convinced that it will take quite a bit of time to fully roll out Wimax in New York City. Until then, Sprint's 3G will be fine. Quite simply, Wimax is not a reason to buy or not a reason to not buy service with Sprint.
     
  17. nyczducky

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    There used to be a referral program for Sprint. I made like $300 one year doing it lol. It used to be $50 for you and the person you referred. Then it dropped to $25. Not sure if they still have it. They sent it to you in a prepaid Visa.

    Never seen that porting credit before. I'd assume its either a credit to your account or a prepaid Visa.
     
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    Any music songs you have in your itunes can be converted within itunes, no need to buy or get a free conversion program. If you do end up needing to convert some songs to mp3 or what not and you cant figure it out, message me.
     
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    The referral program has been discontinued, and the porting credit was only for companies not individuals.
     
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    Same boat here...

    I've been with AT&T since 2005 and have been a Blackberry user for the past 3 years. At first, I was really iffy of switching to Sprint because I hardly know anyone who has them as their wireless provider. But I was itching to get out of AT&T since their service or lack thereof is really bad in NYC. So basically it was a toss up between Verizon and Sprint... and when I found out that my company has a pretty significant monthly service discount, it was so hard to pass up. (plus the 30-day guarantee was just icing on the cake)

    So far I have been happy with their service/coverage. Have yet to drop a call and they have been somewhat consistent with their 3G service. However, I did observe that there was no signal when you're underground (while waiting for PATH/Subway) Not that it matters a whole lot, but I did have some bars with AT&T.

    As a Mac user, this also made it more difficult to switch since syncing was going to be flawless with an iPhone or perhaps with my Blackberry through BB Desktop Manager. To my surprise, syncing my contacts and calendar events to my Evo was easy. You basically just need to sync your Address Book and Calendar apps with Google and you should be all set.

    I'm sure you've done your research with regards to the Evo. It's not going to be a perfect phone that suits everyone's needs - no phone does. The battery life, some QC issues with the screen/light leakage, and the buzzing earpiece (mine has this and am currently awaiting for a replacement), etc... But overall, I've been a happy camper. The gorgeous screen, internet/browsing experience, powerful processor, the multimedia capabilities, and the promise of 4G makes it a "perfect phone" that suits MY needs.

    ... and now your search begins. Good luck!
     
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    I'm a Mac owner.

    You'll be getting a GMail account, if you don't have one, go ahead and get one.

    GMail is to Android as MobileMe is to iPhone/Mac.

    First, you want to put your all of your contacts into Address Book. Next, select all contacts and then File -> Export... to a vCard.vcf file - all of contacts will be in that one file.

    Log into GMail via your Mac on Safari. Select Contacts link. Follow your nose to the Import link - select by file and it lets you browse to your local machine. Specify the vCard.vcf file.

    Your done syncing contacts. And ALL group relationships are preserved. Don't worry about contacts with just email and no phone numbers, you can filter for that once you have your Evo.

    Do that first.

    If you're running Snow Leopard, open Address Book-> Preferences -> Accounts -> Account Information and turn on Synchronize with Google. The Configure... button lets you input gmail username and password. From that point on, new contacts in your Address Book can sync with Google and vice versa.

    If you don't have Snow Leopard, all of the free auto-syncing stuff sux. Using back and forth on vCard exchanges between the two by hand maybe once a month and then tell both sides to remove duplicates. Supposedly built-in Google sync works in Leopard, but that really depends on the history of the machine - so if Tiger's been there before - not really gonna happen, but you can try it.

    Next - open Calendar tab on GMail. Goto settings and set your timezone and give the Calendar a name.

    If you're on Snow Leopard, pop open iCal-> Preferences -> Accounts. Follow the wizard and add an account - don't go automatic, use the drop down and go WebDav for Google.

    Anything in your iCal will then automagically sync with Google Calendar.

    If you don't have Snow Leopard, follow the Google Calendar settings page and find the little button that says ICS under the private entry, second up from the bottom. Use that link in iCal-> File -> Import to get read-only access to your Google Calendar.

    (The message here is that you want Snow Leopard.)

    From the moment you turn on your Evo and enter your GMail address - your contacts and calendars are automagically sync'd with the Google web. (And all vice versa down to your Mac if you're on Snow Leopard - enter stuff on your Evo and it'll be on your Mac.) That's it, you're done!

    For syncing iTunes, people have tried various things, including doubletwist. You're on a Mac. Maybe try TuneSync - Lite version is free, limits you to 20 songs in your play list to see if that's right for you, then you can buy buy the full version for $5. Others like doubletwist, and sometimes the whole iTunes syncing thing becomes a holy war.

    This next week in Europe, HTC is rolling iTunes syncing support for one of their phones with the upcoming Android 2.2 update. No idea if that's coming to our US version. I think not because they'd have mentioned a feature that big in the press leaks we've all been following for the past few days.

    My suggestion is to not be dissuaded by anything you see on syncing woes right off. It seems to be an improving situation.

    Find TuneSync here -

    How to set up wireless iTunes sync with the HTC EVO 4G - Know Your Cell

    Doubletwist here -

    doubleTwist Player by doubleTwist Corp - doubleTwist Android Market

    Syncing by hand and a USB cable is a snap if you want to transfer albums - for playlists, it's not hard - but it's too much work for a human. You have to create the playlist name by hand, then copy/paste by hand.

    So, try one of the syncing routines if you like playlists.

    The stock music player in 2.1 - not so great. I've no clue what it'll be like in 2.2 being released next week.

    I swear by a free app called Meridian. It will play ALL of your music files. Don't expect to get embedded art (if you've done that) from inside your ALAC (lossless) files if you have any - nor to be able to edit MP3 tags. Those are MP4 files, and nothing's broken that's going to be fixed. Meridian's appearance is not great, not polished. But - the overall app is quite good and it's like a one-stop shop for your vids and music.

    People that don't prefer Meridian prefer Rockplayer, also free.

    None of the decent music players include an EQ feature.

    For audio quality, the Evo is __identical__ to a gen 2/gen 3 iPod Nano, if you can relate to that. So, you'll hear some audiophile griping, but it's really pretty OK as far as I'm concerned.

    For an SMS app, you want Handcent SMS. Closest thing to what you're used to and highly preferred by lots of Android users. Others swear by ChompSMS - I use Handcent.

    Both are free in the Market.

    For voice recognition dialing, the stock app sux. You want Edwin, also free in the Market.

    And you want Google Gesture Search, especially if you contact list is large. Do NOT confuse it with gesture-anything in the iPhone world. It's superior, it's fabulous and if you've got a large contact list - you'll be addicted to it in about 5 seconds.

    BTW - Bluetooth File Exchange under Applications->Utilities works like a charm with the Evo. Windows users get screwed on Bluetooth software, they always have, I don't know why. So don't pay attention to BT file transfer woes if you hear of any. You can also get great service out of various free file managers that let you transfer by wifi or BT and you can initiate that from the Evo side with those.

    If you're using that iPhone thing to remotely control any of your Macs - forget it. I use my Evo with a program called Remote Droid to control my Mac mini HTPC - gives you a wireless two-button trackpad and soft keyboard that can't be beat for that sort of thing - also free. In addition, you'll find a few (free) Front-Row type remote controllers that you can use between your Evo and your Mac and they're cool too - you'll have to choose if you'd like more than Remote Droid.

    Then there's a free app for your Mac called calibre that will let you turn various files into eBooks. I think it's kinda raw and sucky but it does work.

    That takes care of everything but the Rotary Dialer - if you recall the first iPhone keynote address - well - you can actually hose around with an on-screen rotary dialer, it works and it's a crack up.

    Leave your iPhone behind, welcome to Sprint, welcome to Android, welcome to the Evo, welcome to this corner of the forums, post back if you need any specific advice on stuff.
     
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    Great info there, thanks. I learned a lot and Im going to try it out.
     
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    If you have any iTMS files with FairPlay DRM you have to use a grey market app or another method to get rid of that.

    Otherwise, your iTMS non-DRM'd music in AAC - which is not an Apple format - as well as your Apple Lossless files (now that IS an Apple format) will work with Meridian as I suggested.

    There are also apps that will let you batch convert your Mac music library into plain, old-fashioned MP3 files. I guess some people find some advantage in that - I just recommend a more capable player on the Evo.

    If you want to go that route, I'll look up the name of one of those if somebuddy else doesn't jump in and advise on its specifics.
     
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    EarlyMon The PearlyMon Moderator

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    Hey, absolutely, we're all in this together and we all learn from each other.

    Like all the good compadres hereabouts, if there's anything I can help with just say.
     
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    Possible
     

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