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  2. HanSolo

    HanSolo Guest

  3. It works fine for me. I'm on my phone and it comes up.
  4. ryoung19

    ryoung19 Member

  5. The_Chief

    The_Chief Accept no imitations! Moderator

    A nice, skinny LTE phone? So it CAN be done! :)
  6. I figured if anyone could do it samsung would be one of the first to do it.
  7. Sandroidfan

    Sandroidfan Well-Known Member

    Very nice! So this shows Sammy can do it. This has 800Mhz LTE not for US, but swapping it with 700Mhz LTE wouldn't be that big deal hopefully.
  8. I was thinking the same thing. Come on verizon make it happen lol.
  9. drdoom

    drdoom Well-Known Member

    Meh. It has a 1.5Ghz Snapdragon. The Exynos would rip that apart clock for clock. I'd still get it even if it had the Snapdragon.
  10. jinwons

    jinwons Well-Known Member

    I prefer exynos too. But this dual core snapdragon like in Evo3D is not bad either. I saw AnTuTu on 1.2Ghz Exynos vs 1.5Ghz 8X60 snapdragon and dual snapdragon performed better on memory/IO scores and Exynos won on gaming, graphics scores. But at the same clock Exynos would be on par even on memory scores. My concern is battery life at 1.5Ghz speed.
  11. HanSolo

    HanSolo Guest

    This makes me sad. The fact that it's 800MHz proves it's not for US. All you're looking at is what's next for Europe.

    It's like watching UPS deliver a beautiful 50' 3D HD tv to your neighbor's house and salivating over it, wondering if the truck is going to stop at your house next.

  12. jinwons

    jinwons Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but who knows. Maybe they have been developing 700Mhz LTE together but very quietly for Verizon or soon after this. I don't think 700Mhz vs 800Mhz LTE requires drastic redesign of phone.
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  13. HanSolo

    HanSolo Guest

    I hope you're right. I hope that stupid roadmap that looked like something I'd cook up on my Excel is accurate!

    If they release the same day, it's a no-brainer getting the SGSII.
  14. Thats what we are all hoping.
  15. rrhartjr

    rrhartjr Well-Known Member

    For what it's worth, if you look at the specs..

    The APQ8060 is Qualcomm's 45nm dual-core Snapdragon with Adreno 220.. with NO modem.

    The radio is Qualcomm's MDM9200.. which is a standalone modem chip that provides the UMTS connectivity.

    This is different than most of the Snapdragon SOCs which have the modem as part of a single chip, making it difficult to add any secondary connectivity.

    A setup like this is basically similar to the HTC Thunderbolt (but different than the Charge or Revo).. except that the Thunderbolt uses the MSM8655 (which includes a full 1x/EVDO baseband.. but is only used for 1x). The Thunderbolt uses the MDM9600 for LTE connectivity (same as the MDM9200 plus support for CDMA radios.. 1x/EVDO), unfortunately duplicating the function of the MSM8655 1x/EVDO basebands..

    Perhaps all this redundant silicon is what causes some of the power hunger of the Thunderbolt.

    You could extrapolate that this means the way is paved for a simple architecture in a EVDO capable Galaxy S II.. because it simply means replacing the MDM9200 with a MDM9600. No worries about integrating the existing baseband.

    The sacrifice is still no simultaneous data and voice/text when connected ONLY to 3G... but I think everyone is willing to live with this at this point. Only the Thunderbolt is capable of this.. not even the Charge or Revo..
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  16. Sandroidfan

    Sandroidfan Well-Known Member

    Thanks for nice explanation on processor and modem chips. Do you have any idea why they are replacing Exynos with dual core Snapdragon in LTE SGS2? Just curious why it can't be done with Exynos though I'm fine with dual snapdragon.
  17. Maybe they were having issues with lte and exynos?
  18. The_Chief

    The_Chief Accept no imitations! Moderator

    My understanding is that the architecture of the chip just doesn't play well with LTE...
  19. The_Chief

    The_Chief Accept no imitations! Moderator

    Here's more on the LTE version of SGS2:

    Samsung Galaxy S II with Motorola Droid Bionic like feature unearthed

    Not much, but the LTE version apparently supports a 1750mAh battery instead of the SGS2's 1650mAh.

    WHICH MEANS TO US: LTE and a probably better battery equals great data rates and longer life! I think the Bionic is looking cheesier by the day, if the Stratosphere is anything like this baby. And I'd like to think it is :)
  20. Trent Reznor

    Trent Reznor Well-Known Member

    If verizon gets a nonslider version of this beast I am in!!!!!!

    What excites me the most about what has leaked about this phone is that the LTE hasn't made that much thicker!!!!

    LTE Samsung Galaxy S II Pops Up in Korea Sporting 4.5″ Screen and Dual-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon Processor, We All Dance a Jig - Droid Life: A Droid Community Blog

    The specs at the bottom list it at 9.39mm thick... to put that in perspective an Iphone 4 is 9.3mm!!! This LTE packing beast is only .09mm thicker than an Iphone:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
  21. I hope it has lte but I'm not going to get my hopes up. I think there is a reason verizon is not leaking anything about this phone and it is looking like its because its a slider but lets hope I am wrong and we do get a version like this.
  22. rrhartjr

    rrhartjr Well-Known Member

    I dont know but if i had to guess i would say either:
    - supply issues we have seen gs2 with other cpus like tegra2
    - integration issues with qualcomm lte issues like seen with tegra2 in bionic
    - maybe exynos doesnt come without radio which would lead to duplicate silicon like in thunderbolt

    Just some speculation..
  23. milan03

    milan03 VIP Member VIP Member

    The fact that Samsung just made LTE 800Mhz phone using pretty much the same baseband silicon that was designed two years ago, and still managed to make a sleek design, I don't see why wouldn't the same exact LTE phone come out in the U.S. on the 700Mhz band 13... I was actually hoping that the new 28nm Qualcomm chipsets would come out earlier, so that power consumption is lower, and battery life longer, but it looks like Samsung managed to make a beautiful thin LTE phone.
    Now I'm convinced we will be getting 700Mhz GS2 in a month!!! wow! :D
  24. jinwons

    jinwons Well-Known Member

    I don't think Exynos has integrated 3G radio chips like Qualcomm snapdragons. Tegra2, OMAP4 don't have it either as far as I know. So they can be used for GSM and CDMA phones.

    I think it's either Exynos supply issue or Samsung found it more power efficient with dual core snapdragon 8X60 AP and LTE radio.
  25. milan03

    milan03 VIP Member VIP Member

    Only few companies have licensing agreements to develop CDMA and GSM chipsets.

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