MediaInfo output for the Evo's "HD" video capture.Support


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  1. criccio

    criccio Member This Topic's Starter

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    Well ever since I heard that our Evo's would be able to record HD video, I was skeptical. One of the first things I wanted to do was get a MediaInfo log output from a video I shot with my Evo to see if it can truly be called "HD".

    Now, while this is great video for a cell phone, calling it "HD" is purely marketing. With a bitrate and a framerate that low, its pretty sad.

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    1. General
    2. Complete name                    : C:\Users\criccio\Downloads\VIDEO0002.3gp
    3. Format                           : MPEG-4
    4. Format profile                   : 3GPP Media Release 4
    5. Codec ID                         : 3gp4
    6. File size                        : 12.2 MiB
    7. Duration                         : 17s 118ms
    8. Overall bit rate                 : 5 975 Kbps
    9. Law rating                       : (empty)
    10. Released date                    : 0
    11. Encoded date                     : UTC 2010-06-05 01:43:17
    12. Tagged date                      : UTC 2010-06-05 01:43:17
    13. Classification                   : (empty)
    14.  
    15. Video
    16. ID                               : 1
    17. Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
    18. Format profile                   : Simple@L6
    19. Format settings, BVOP            : Yes
    20. Format settings, QPel            : No
    21. Format settings, GMC             : No warppoints
    22. Format settings, Matrix          : Default (H.263)
    23. Codec ID                         : 20
    24. Duration                         : 17s 118ms
    25. Bit rate mode                    : Constant
    26. Bit rate                         : 6 000 Kbps
    27. Width                            : 1 280 pixels
    28. Height                           : 720 pixels
    29. Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
    30. Frame rate mode                  : Variable
    31. Frame rate                       : 9.873 fps
    32. Minimum frame rate               : 2.475 fps
    33. Maximum frame rate               : 10.204 fps
    34. Color space                      : YUV
    35. Bit depth                        : 8 bits
    36. Scan type                        : Progressive
    37. Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.659
    38. Stream size                      : 12.2 MiB (100%)
    39. Language                         : English
    40. Encoded date                     : UTC 2010-06-05 01:43:17
    41. Tagged date                      : UTC 2010-06-05 01:43:17
    42.  
    43. Audio
    44. ID                               : 2
    45. Format                           : AMR
    46. Format/Info                      : Adaptive Multi-Rate
    47. Format profile                   : Narrow band
    48. Codec ID                         : samr
    49. Duration                         : 16s 880ms
    50. Bit rate mode                    : Constant
    51. Bit rate                         : 12.8 Kbps
    52. Channel(s)                       : 1 channel
    53. Sampling rate                    : 8 000 Hz
    54. Bit depth                        : 13 bits
    55. Stream size                      : 26.4 KiB (0%)
    56. Writing library                  : pvmm
    57. Language                         : English
    58. Encoded date                     : UTC 2010-06-05 01:43:17
    59. Tagged date                      : UTC 2010-06-05 01:43:17
    60.  

    Just a heads up. I still LOVE my Evo!
     

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  2. skpd

    skpd Well-Known Member

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    the bitrate is not bad. I've downloaded videos that claimed they are "HD" online with worse bitrates (2Mbps :eek:)

    but I agree the fps is way too low...and consequently you can see the choppiness in the video when played. oh well, I still have my Creative VADO HD for quick HD video recording.
     
  3. aliveon2legs

    aliveon2legs Well-Known Member

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    Is this a hardware limitation, or is this something that can be improved with a better 3'rd party video recording app?
     
  4. overclock

    overclock Well-Known Member

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    What about the other resolutions? Do those have better frame rates? I don't need everything in HD.
     
  5. NeoteriX

    NeoteriX Well-Known Member

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    A couple of observations:

    - the bitrate taken in isolation isn't bad -- I've transcoded HD movies to 720p with a bitrate of less that 6 Mbps and there is plenty more detail than what is available on the Evo. I believe it's the bitrate in conjunction with the codec and lack of encoding efficiency.

    - The framerate isn't always this bad; it certainly gets as low at 10 fps in low light though. In daylight, it probably averages 24 fps.
     
  6. skpd

    skpd Well-Known Member

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    this is what I got:

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    Complete name : E:\DCIM\100MEDIA\VIDEO0001.3gp
    Format : MPEG-4
    Format profile : 3GPP Media Release 4
    Codec ID : 3gp4
    File size : 19.0 MiB
    Duration : 26s 475ms
    Overall bit rate : 6 019 Kbps
    Law rating : (empty)
    Released date : 0
    Encoded date : UTC 2010-06-04 16:27:33
    Tagged date : UTC 2010-06-04 16:27:33
    Classification : (empty)
    Video #1
    ID : 1
    Format : MPEG-4 Visual
    Format profile : Simple@L6
    Format settings, BVOP : Yes
    Format settings, QPel : No
    Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
    Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
    Codec ID : 20
    Duration : 26s 475ms
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 6 000 Kbps
    Width : 1 280 pixels
    Height : 720 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Variable
    Frame rate : 22.927 fps
    Minimum frame rate : 3.311 fps
    Maximum frame rate : 32.258 fps
    Resolution : 24 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.284
    Stream size : 18.9 MiB (100%)
    Encoded date : UTC 2010-06-04 16:27:33
    Tagged date : UTC 2010-06-04 16:27:33
    Audio #2
    ID : 2
    Format : AMR
    Format/Info : Adaptive Multi-Rate
    Format profile : Narrow band
    Codec ID : samr
    Duration : 26s 360ms
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 12.8 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 1 channel
    Sampling rate : 8 000 Hz
    Resolution : 16 bits
    Stream size : 41.2 KiB (0%)
    Writing library : pvmm
    Encoded date : UTC 2010-06-04 16:27:33
    Tagged date : UTC 2010-06-04 16:27:33
     
  7. mrspeedmaster

    mrspeedmaster Well-Known Member

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    Just for added emphasis; especially on the audio codec. Just to illustrate how bad it is.
     
  8. NeoteriX

    NeoteriX Well-Known Member

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    Quoted for truth.

    The video honestly doesn't bother me all that much... but the sound is terrible. If there was something I could campaign HTC to fix, the recording audio would be one of the top.

    The Palm Pre, a phone with inferior hardware, records video audio at AAC 44.1 Khz.
     
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    finndo77 Well-Known Member

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    I've posted my video information from a couple of videos (one low res and one high) on my blog... where I have 6 posts about my Evo already and am about to do another (all fairly long), unfortunately I am fighting my site right now, because it deletes all formatting when a post is viewed for the first time (by me or anyone else)...

    joelperryproductions.com
     
  10. shandroid

    shandroid Well-Known Member

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    yeah i was a little dissapointed w/video quality, 720P i was expecting it to be at least as good as a Point n shoot camera.
     
  11. MrX8503

    MrX8503 Well-Known Member

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    Bit rate : 12.8 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 1 channel
    Sampling rate : 8 000 Hz

    Holy crap, no wonder the sound is crap. The video is bad, but the audio is worse.
     
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    talz13 Well-Known Member

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    I thought the video quality was okay, but the audio was pretty atrocious. I was recording a Taiko drum demonstration, and the sound didn't come out well at all (not that I was expecting pristine, master quality).

    YouTube - Yume Daiko (1)

    YouTube - Yume Daiko (2)

    I think the recording was a little choppy in a couple places due to my 16gb class 2 card...
     
  13. NeoteriX

    NeoteriX Well-Known Member

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    What I've been saying all along. I can live with the video, but the audio is unacceptable.
     
  14. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon Moderator

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    OK - I don't see why a new thread was started when there are several on this subject - but OK.

    Codec. I complained because I'm getting tired of posting about the codec. It's MPEG-4 Part 2. You can think you can do all you want with bitrates and frame rates, but the codec itself sux. Compare to H.264, aka MPEG-4 Part 10. Then care about the other params.

    And also - the codec in Android may improve in Froyo. CoreCodec is trying to replace PacketVideo codec library in Android, expect it in 2.2, have been working on it for well over a year.

    I'm sorry, but I just see tinkering with MPEG-4/2 like dressing a pig in silk.

    BTW - nice stats, criccio.
     
  15. dekcufup

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    So is there a media player that plays .mp4 video out to a plasma television? I read that mediainfo app is needed to check the .mp4 and the .mp4 has to have h264 encoded video in a special form called baseline encoding. Can anyone verify this and update with the name of the best video player.

    Don't blame me for this username. The site gave me this name and I don't know how to change it. Thanks.
     

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