Missing album artSupport


  1. jwbeeler

    jwbeeler Well-Known Member

    Yes, I used WMP 11. I had previously set it to rip lossless (wav). However, it cause issues when porting to another device (Droid or Sony Walkman) with regard to artist and album art. So, I simply re-ripped the same CD's using mp3 (max bitrate). I deleted all the old music from my machine and then resynched. It worked perfectly. I hope this helps someone else as well. :)
  2. nycebo

    nycebo Well-Known Member

    I'm fully aware of enhanced MP3 tagging data. My point wasn't that ID3 is NOT a standard; my point was that iTunes especially and Windows Media Player additionally are the programs that most droid users will probably be using to listen to their music. Accordingly, it would seem a no brainer that Android can sync properly to these two programs without having to pull down cover art that ALREADY exists in the programs. Anyway, as we've seen already, 3rd parties have already designed programs to sort of address these issues but I hate laying on layers of programs to solve issues that should have been properly implemented in the first place. I mean seriously, can you tell me why a Sony Walkman has no problem doing this but the Droid virtual computer does? It just doesn't make the most sense.
  3. nycebo

    nycebo Well-Known Member

    I too use WMP in Win 7 to rip CDs in mp3 format and can't respond that all the cover art comes across properly as you've been able to report. :-( Some do, some don't. It's beyond curious.
  4. alostpacket

    alostpacket Over Macho Grande? VIP Member


    Droid virtual computer? ID3 not a standard?

    Dude, you don't know what you're talking about.
  5. nycebo

    nycebo Well-Known Member

    alostpacket, you're being argumentative just to be that way. Chill out dude. The Droid is a virtual (virtual as in essentially) a computer. I was trying to emphasize that it's a lot more powerful than a lot of folks' laptops from years ago. And to reiterate, I was AGREEING that ID3 is a standard. Reread my post: it says "my point WASN'T that ID3 is NOT a standard". Indeed, you raised the ID3 issue. You're doing the usual thing that defensive people do when they can't really address a simple argument...you're deflecting it from the argument...which is that WMP and iTunes should sync cover art with Android. Fine, I get it, you don't think so. Enjoy your workaround.
  6. alostpacket

    alostpacket Over Macho Grande? VIP Member


    I'm agruing with you because you seem ignorant about standards and software. Anyways, sorry for misreading the word 'wasn't', you're right I misread that sentence.

    The question I'm asking you though, is why should Android support a non-standard?

    For me, it's Microsoft and Apple that have failed to treat the consumer well. Why you seem to miss that point and blame Google is beyond me.
  7. dja1980

    dja1980 Well-Known Member

    I don't know... what's the definition of a standard if it's not being used by the 2 largest players in the game? (hypothetical)

    As I mentioned previously, I find it strange that my previous $50 mp3 players were capable of doing something that this $600 device is not... regardless of standards.
  8. nycebo

    nycebo Well-Known Member

    I totally get what you're saying. As I mentioned, it's just a nice feature that I think a lot of users would have appreciated. As I recall, Android certainly seems capable of playing AAC and WMA file formats from Apple and MS.

    Speaking of, I don't have WMA songs, but do they sync cover art properly?
  9. alostpacket

    alostpacket Over Macho Grande? VIP Member

    I hear ya, it's frustrating no matter who's fault it is.
  10. jwbeeler

    jwbeeler Well-Known Member

    Are they all mp3? If so, did you drag and drop or sync? If you sync, they should all work. If you drag and drop, maybe, maybe not. One other little tidbit, if you go to "album" and then "get album information" it seems to be much more reliable.
  11. nycebo

    nycebo Well-Known Member

    Hey Jwbeeler. All of my songs are mp3 format. I sync'ed through Windows Media Player (rather than drag and drop...though earlier in this thread it was mentioned that the latter did work for them). Everything comes across well except for the cover art. Besides, I don't mean to belabor the issue. The music plays fine and since the phone is generally in my pocket, I'm just happy that I'm not getting corrupt file errors like I used to read in Blackberry forums when I had a Curve. But it's peculiar and confusing as heck. I can't determine why some of the albums have cover art but most don't. I checked the files themselves and they seem almost identical. I'd almost be happier if all of the art was missing because then I would know it's a sync issue. Clearly it's a tag, file, or rip issue. Oh brother!

    As for "get album information", is that on the Droid or in Windows Media Player? I generally "Find Album Info" in WMP in order to populate the MP3's song information. I'm going to more thoroughly investigate the tags when I get home tonight. Maybe there's a difference between some albums that I overlooked the first time round.
  12. nycebo

    nycebo Well-Known Member

    Guys, I think this post may have the solution for why our MP3s are displaying the cover art. It's as Alostpacket described, but in a slightly more pedantic fashion so people like me can understand it thoroughly. I'm betting that the solution is to find a program that automatically takes WMP's cover art and applies it into the MP3's tag.

    However, before I try doing that, I may try this guy's suggestion whereby I verify that WMP's privacy is set to allow media files to retrieve information from the internet:
    I'll let you know how it goes.
  13. dja1980

    dja1980 Well-Known Member

    Definitely keep us posted!
  14. jwbeeler

    jwbeeler Well-Known Member

    Mine is also checked to overwrite existing data as well. Maybe that is the trick. Who knows?
  15. MisterB

    MisterB Well-Known Member

    Well, there's an hour of my life I'll never get back, thanks to the recommendation for this crappy program. To my disappointment, this monkey program doesn't carry over all of the album artwork that iTunes contains. So, who cares that the monkey program can sync album artwork, if the artwork is missing? I read their forum, and all sorts of people are complaining about it and are having to install some third party script they have to run to get it to copy over the artwork. No thanks...

    What a shiny piece of crap...
  16. alostpacket

    alostpacket Over Macho Grande? VIP Member


    Sounds like PEBKAC.
  17. MisterB

    MisterB Well-Known Member

    Nope. Sorry to hurt your precious feelings that something you recommended is crap, but it is...
  18. alostpacket

    alostpacket Over Macho Grande? VIP Member


    lol, I couldn't care less if you cant figure out how to use basic MP3 software. I hope you dont ruin it for others though with your biatchy little impatience.
  19. allanlaw

    allanlaw Well-Known Member

    I did a wholesale drag and drop of all the music files (mp3) in my WMP universe (XP machine) to the Droid, organized with songs in album files, and ALL of the album art displays very nicely on the Droid. I didn't touch anything in WMP settings.
  20. MisterB

    MisterB Well-Known Member

    LOL yourself. Here you are questioning my abilities to figure out a "basic MP3 software", and yet you apparently have difficulties reading? Earlier, I mentioned that I had figured out what it would take to make the software work, but it was more trouble than it was worth. I'm done with you.

    For everyone else, I downloaded Album Art Grabber from the Market for like two bucks. After two clicks, it had 99% of the missing artwork and took a total of about 5 minutes...
  21. Amaroth

    Amaroth Well-Known Member

    I drag and drop all my files. I use mp3tag to edit my mp3s and add album art and I have noticed that SOME of the time, even though the mp3 has art embedded in it, when I copy the files to my phone the album art seems to vanish. I just have to open them in mp3tag from the phone and just manually add the art again and its fixed.
    It could be a Windows Vista issue. Windows Vista is so weird...
  22. alostpacket

    alostpacket Over Macho Grande? VIP Member

    Lots of people on this forum made it work, you just apparently couldn't and decided to whine about it. Glad your pay app worked, but please stop whining like a child.
  23. nycebo

    nycebo Well-Known Member

    Hey guys, I didn't get a chance to resync my device yesterday so I can't follow up with you about whether or not adjusting the privacy setting resolved the missing cover art issue. I'm betting that it doesn't because the files on my machine may need to ALL be re-looked up for tag information. I may do one or two albums that I know are missing covers and see if that's the ticket.

    Meanwhile, it's starting to piece together pretty well in terms of what's happening. During sync, I think that WMP is just 'sending' the files to the Droid and not the hidden album.jpg files. I don't know why Android doesn't do this and Sony does but that's the way it is. Allan, in your case, I think that the reason why a full drag and drop of directories is working is because you are ALSO taking the album.jpg with you. I guess this is a workaround but it's not remotely my preference because I can't control the sync with playlists and for file size. For now, I'm going without cover art (unless my earlier attempt works). I guess the next step will be to use mp3tag or something of the sort to embed the album cover into the mp3 and see if that works...though from what I've read, some people have problems with that route also since not all the cover art shows.

    Just so very peculiar. Maybe 2.1 will resolve this issue. Hey, by the way, any Nexus users out there care to comment about music sync and album covers?
  24. FreshPrince

    FreshPrince Well-Known Member

    It's easiest to edit the album art in Media Monkey the same way you would in iTunes.
  25. nycebo

    nycebo Well-Known Member

    Hey guys, an update on the settings changes that I made to WMP: they made no difference. I did find what accounts for some of my files having cover art and others not. Anything that I've purchased from Amazon has the cover art embedded in the file so it shows up in the Android media player. Curiously, sometimes it doesn't show up until the file is actually played, but it's definitely in there. As for MP3s that I rip from CDs in WMP, the cover art is seemingly NOT embedded in the file. My next step is to consider using one of the taggers to embed the cover art. Or, I could just sit around and wait and see if the issue is addressed in 2.1. Lazy as I am, and since the music still plays with or without cover art, I'll likely just wait around and hope for a 'fix' (I know, the error is with my MP3 but just in case).
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