Most outrageous experience while voting

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  1. A.Nonymous

    A.Nonymous Well-Known Member

    Possibly. I've honestly never given the question a lot of thought. If the case, then African American would be offensive I would think. I can't imagine someone identifying themselves first with a continent they weren't born in and have never been to.

  2. cmybliss

    cmybliss Well-Known Member

    Not my intention to to chanel Bill, but I'll take it. He was a good president who,with a bit of help from Bush 41's tax increase, left us in a much better place than 43.

    I was actually thinking about a scene I witnessed in an airport a while back. While walking in the concourse I passed a shoe shine station. Sitting in the chair with a small smile on his face, getting a sparkling shine put on his shoes, was an elderly African American man. The guy shining his shoes was white. It struck me, how such a small act could speak volumes.

    You must not have Googled the Republican remarks. There have been, and continue to be downright hateful remarks and images thrown the President's way by elected officials. While some dems have made questionable remarks, not one has been loaded with the vitriol and bile of the ones I referenced. That doesn't make them right, but I wouldn't put them in the same class.
  3. copestag

    copestag Well-Known Member

    yes youre right........ the ones you referrenced were clearly insulting........ while the ones the democrats have made are clearly racist

    but high melanin americans and democrats cant be racists so that makes it ok

    that race card has been played so much the color has worn out (pun intended)

    was listening to a radio broadcast earlier....... couldnt help but laugh

    they were discussing the petitions to secede

    a high melanin american guy calls in complaining its only because theyre all racists....... that could be the only possible reason people could be upset with obama

    he even went so far as to say the only reason people disagree with obamas policies is because hes a high melanin american

    if you differ in opinion in any way shape or form its simply because of racism

    get over it...... race bait elsewhere
  4. cmybliss

    cmybliss Well-Known Member

    Not sure why you think stating fact is race baiting :confused:

    On election night you had the folks on Fox News bemoaning the changing face of America. Complaining about the fact that "traditional America" is gone. They continually throw out terms like "welfare queen" to incite their primarily caucasian base. Again, these are facts. I'm a nerd at heart and read the exit polls from about 30 states..... So far. It's unfortunate that we as a nation still stoop to this type of behavior.

    I'm not excusing any one from it, Republican or Democratic. If you hear it or see it around you and don't stand up against it, you're just as guilty as the guy who said it. I had to berate my 90 year old grandma the other day for complaining about the "half Chinese" on her news show.
  5. copestag

    copestag Well-Known Member

    again with the race baiting......

    "traditional america"? thats racist??

    "welfare queen"? thats racist??

    of course you realize that traditional america harkens to over 200 years of democracy vs the perceived socialist path many believe we are on

    of course to disagree with a high melanin americans policy must mean racism

    and you do realize that the majority of those on welfare happen to be low melanin americans??

    so speaking of welfare speaks to the fact that rather than create jobs this administration would rather create dependants

    but of course to disagree with a high melanin americans policy must mean racism

    thats the problem with the true racists in america........ they cry racism and play the race card anytime someone disagrees with them

    the sooner high melanin americans stop feeling sorry for themselves and join society the happier they will be...... until then there will always be racism in America..... coming from the race baiters
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  6. Gmash

    Gmash Well-Known Member

    They're called code words. Sorry, but everyone is onto your codes now. The "southern strategy" doesn't work anymore.
  7. copestag

    copestag Well-Known Member

    yes all whiteys speak in code..... its a grand conspiracy to bring back the whips

    as I said...... if you have an opinion different than a high melanin american it has to be racism

    half of america must be racists because they dont like obama...... its only because hes black.... has nothing at all to do with his policies

    no race baiting there at all
  8. Gmash

    Gmash Well-Known Member

    I never said that, but we all know what Rush and company mean by "welfare queens". To say there is NO racism behind the rabid opposition to Obama is as dumb as saying EVERYONE who doesn't like Obama is a racist. I don't think that, and surely you can acknowledge there is a racial edge there to some of the criticism from certain elements of the right.

    (I am a "Whitey" by the way lol)
  9. copestag

    copestag Well-Known Member

    only a fool would claim that racism doesnt exist at all....... and likewise only a fool would claim that some prominent people havent made racist comments

    however..... theres fools on both sides....... and only a fool would claim that the race card and race baiting isnt just as prolific

    as I said earlier...... some of the most racist comments about obama have come from people like Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, Harry Reid, and the list goes on....... so to bash a few select Republicans who have made remarks and then claim its all about racism is silly

    and even sillier is to take totally unrelated remarks and try to fashion them into racism

    people are allowed to disagree with obama on the basis that they hate his policies....... they dont have to be racists

    just like the petitions for secession.... because people dont want to be part of a collapsing nation....Im sure some of the signatures ARE from racist people..... but Im sure many signatures were most assuredly from high melanin americans...... but maybe theyre just 'uncle toms'
  10. cmybliss

    cmybliss Well-Known Member

    Wow. So much is wrong with what you just wrote I'm not sure where to begin.

    As a "low melanin American" I find your attitude disturbing.

    I'm perfectly aware of the fact that the majority of "government handouts" go to white Americans in red states. (I read exit polls remember? Or did you just skip part?) But if you listen to the right wing media and elected officials, as I'm sure you do, you'll have heard those terms thrown into rants about the non-whites who are ruining this great country. Welfare queen was a term coined by the Republican party during the Reagan years used to refer to the intercity "high melanin" people on welfare.

    While reading those pesky exit polls,the ones full of cold hard irrefutable facts, I was struck by which groups the President won, and which he lost. You know the only group he had a problem with? White evangelical Christians. Specifically , old white male evangelical Christians. Tell me truthfully that has nothing to do with race.

    Thank you.

    Again I say thank you, and me too!

    As Gmash said, I'm certain there are a lot of Republicans who voted for Romney on policy. Unfortunately, the far right wing has taken over the party, and they are louder. Again, looking at the exit polls gives a pretty clear picture of who voted where and why. I encourage you to take a look for yourself.
  11. copestag

    copestag Well-Known Member

    and 93% of high melanin americans voted for Obama.......... all racists right......... its because hes 'black'
  12. saptech

    saptech Well-Known Member

    So what do you call them when two whites are running and Blacks vote for one of them???

    And why does white folks always want to label other people???
  13. saptech

    saptech Well-Known Member

    Nope not uncle toms or aunt jemima, this came up during the 1960s, you're probably too young to know about it and i'm sure history has distorted it since.

    Blacks wanted to secede from the USA and create their own Nation within the USA.

    So stop your race baiting or is it race hating???
  14. copestag

    copestag Well-Known Member

    well it certainly couldnt have anything to do with moral issues........ such as gay marriage or abortion..... evangelicals never pay attention to those issues........ they are just out to be racists

    race bait much?
  15. saptech

    saptech Well-Known Member

    Majority of Black Americans doesn't know what part of Africa their ancestors are from. Majority of other Americans do know!
  16. cmybliss

    cmybliss Well-Known Member

    Read this Washington Post article and tell me it's not about race.

    Lindsay Grahm clearly says they don't have enough angry white men to win the demographics race. The article goes on to list a number of other clearly racially motivated remarks.

    It also points out the failings of the Democrats, which is why I think it's a good read. You can't make important decisions by listening to only one voice.

    Yes, evangelicals are overly concerned with social issues, and you could hypothesize that's the reason Romney won their vote. Unfortunately, this theory begins to fall apart when you look at the results for other religious groups.

    Obama won the Catholic vote, and if the Holy See's new campaign to fight LGBT marriage equality is anything to go by, the Catholic leadership is as anti-gay as the worst of them. They also hate birth control with a passion.

    Obama also won the Jewish vote and the vote of people claiming to be Christian that declined to mention a particular sect. While Romney did win the Mormon vote, he actually got less support among his own religious group than Bush did.

    Look, I'm not saying all Republicans are racists. Far from it in fact. It's just unfortunate that the extremists within the party have painted the party as a whole in that light with a very broad brush. They have forced the leadership into this awkward dance of denouncing these comments at the mic, while tweeting their support for them under the pulpit. I have some very good friends who are life long Republicans that voted Obama this year because they couldn't stand the hate being spewed by their party.

    *sorry for that super long link. I can't seem to get a short one on my phone to work.
  17. rootbrain

    rootbrain Well-Known Member

    Hence the saying "The pen is mightier than the sword".
  18. huh

    huh Well-Known Member

    Wow! how did I miss this thread? or...maybe that's a good thing
    I'm from a long line of Republican's and proud of it!! My ancestery is all over the map including little bits of Europe, Africa, Spain etc etc...(although genes are gonna do what they are gonna do..(tall blonde) I'm usually thrown in the caucasion- European pool... but technically I am a "mutt"
    an American... isn't that what all Americans are really?? Isn't that the philosophy of what this country was founded on? why do we have to put labels on everything and everyone? this one band camp..:) I actually checked off every single box on a nationality race question...
    and yes I know.. America was basically stolen and plundered from Native American's
    but I don't have anymore time to stand here on my soap box!!
    perhaps.. another time:D
  19. Davdi

    Davdi Well-Known Member Contributor

    When will you all just grow up and stop calling each other names like children?
    I'm a matrure student at a new University in Luton UK. the touw has a very mixed population (English, Polish, Pakistani, Irish and that's just the main nationalities) The Uni has students from 110 or so countries and we all get along just fine. Maybe it's because we're all there for the same reason and don't have time for worrying about imaginary diffrences.
  20. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Well-Known Member

    There isnt the kind of income differences or history of racial discrimination in the UK though. That said, from what I here, the US is oft a better place to be of a non-European ethnicity than Europe itself, which is pretty shameful. Nationalist parties get 10-20% of the vote across Europe, a terrible thing really.
  21. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Well-Known Member

    Why are you proud of voting without thought? Being a long term voter of a party that is quite changed from earlier incarnations, and being proud of that, is interesting.
  22. huh

    huh Well-Known Member

    I do not vote without thought..I take that right and responsibility very seriously..
    nor do I listen to the rhetoric and misguided misinformed opinions of the flavor of the day profilers and ignorant people who just follow along cluelessly like sheep and have no clue but
    continually bash the republican party without bothering to understand its fundamental philosophy of government .

    and .. I am and always will be...proud to be a republican
  23. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Well-Known Member

    Tell me its philosophy then. I genuinely find that US parties have no philosophy as they are not coherent parties. They are hodge-podges of interest groups.

    Unfortunately the Republicans manage to be both economically and socially illiterate, far more so than even the Democratic Party.
  24. zuben el genub

    zuben el genub Well-Known Member

    The majority in America is turning Hispanic. That includes Mexican, Puerto Rican, Dominican. That's what's scaring a few people. The culture is not that of New England Puritan or Southern Gentleman.

    I can remember a lot of New England Puritan turning their noses up at some of the Italian festivals. The whole neighborhood would have booths, food, fireworks, and a statue of whatever Saint the festival honored. The "gentry" felt it was uncouth, noisy, in some cases blasphemous. The Hispanic culture also has its own ways of celebrating, and that is seen as much the same.

    When Kennedy first ran for president, the was a lot of concern about the Pope in the White House. The majority of the Hispanics are Catholic, and their faith might be forced on Evangelical Christians.

    Now we have a Mixed Race president. Some of the "good old boys" are outraged. Plus his full name doesn't help. I say, too damn bad.

    With the name calling - slang was popular before the 50s. While no one really liked some of the names, it wasn't the federal case it is now. My father used the N word to refer to blacks, but in his case it was more common usage from his youth. (He had to quit school in the third grade to work so he grew up the the late teens early twenties) I'd see him sitting with a bunch of blacks his age just gassing away and enjoying themselves. Just old men enjoying the sun and reminiscing. I think that some of the recipients of the terms could tell whether it was ignorance or malice. Especially the older generation.

    We had some pretty inventive terms for Germans, Japanese, and Italians during that time.

    There are only PACS behind the politics. Both sides.

    I tend to vote for the least likely horse's rear in the bunch. I'd love it if you could vote for Pres. and Vice-Pres. separately.

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  25. huh

    huh Well-Known Member

    k ...well... my original point was..... not all Republican's are rich crotchety with feelings of entitlement protestant anti religion anti human dignity and respect grumpy old white men....i for one am pretty much opposite of that stereotype...
    actually...a lot of us are smart young (ishhhhhh ) :) hey time and age are relative...!!!
    anyway.. educated.. philanthropical.. empathetic and truly concerned about our fellow americans... as human beings... and the welfare and progress and evolution of this country are really what matters,,

    not profiling and name calling and blah blah blaghhh...

    plus Im super hot so.............

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