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  1. cdodge

    cdodge Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I was trying to hold out for the Evo but I went to the VZ store to check out the incredible and I could not leave the store without it :)


    My first impressions of it are.

    Negatives:
    -Battery life does not seem to be as good as the Droids.
    -Feels more flimsy than the Droid
    -Droid supported 24 bit color and Inc and Evo only support 16 bit.
    -Still hate the Race car looking back. Not sure what they were thinking when they did this.


    Positives:
    -Exchange support... well HTC fixed all of Androids problems with Exchange. I now have Corporate directory lookup, Out of office, accept meeting invites, signatures are supported, replies to e-mails show up in the correct format, Exchange security features are working. This is what made the phone worth the price for me.

    -POP3 supportWorks as it should
    I can now delete e-mails from my phone and have it delete them from the server. It also doesn
     

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    nstallion Well-Known Member

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    What a reasonable review. If you go to the Incredible forum it's pretty much either people bitching about battery life or people who can't talk because they are too busy deep-throating the phone.
     
  3. PerCompLLC

    PerCompLLC Well-Known Member

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    Now THAT is funny!! :D
     
  4. SinfulDragon

    SinfulDragon Well-Known Member

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    Was going to say that exact same thing (THAT'S FUNNY)!
     
  5. elvis_marmaduke

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    Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what's the Evo? I tried googling it and it asked if I meant Evdo lol
     
  6. TonyG916

    TonyG916 Well-Known Member

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    Sprint's android phone. EVO 4G. runs WiMax and has a 4.3 in screen. 1ghz snapdragon processor. Same specs as the Inc, but the Evo has a slightly larger screen and can record at 720p

    Verizon > Sprint, so I would rather have an android phone running big red.
     
  7. elvis_marmaduke

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    Oh! I just saw a thing for the LG Ally, which I guess is Verizon's answer to the Evo, but the review said the Evo is still better... however, it didn't seem like it would be too much better.
     
  8. cdodge

    cdodge Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    There were a few features on the Evo I really wanted but the main one was the Kickstand. I know it seems like a dumb feature but my imagio had it and i had grown to like it. I had a dock for the droid that held the phone up but the kickstand comes with the phone and the dock gets left at work :)

    Overall the HTC Sense is cool but probably not worth upgrading just for that.

    I needed better E-mail support and the Incredible has it. That is the main advantage on the incredible, for me at least.

    Sorry the review was short, I was just throwing out some things i liked and dislike about the incredible and didn’t have much time to put any thought into other than rattle of the likes and dislikes :)
     
  9. sooper_droid12

    sooper_droid12 Well-Known Member

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    It sounds like you're more enthralled about Sense UI than the actual phone. 90% of what you're commending about the phone has everything to do with what HTC has improved over native Android through Sense. Even the sense of "speed" is what HTC has done to speed up the experience. Like I said in a previous post, HTC must be utilizing the GPU for certain animation tasks. In handling the Inc, I didn't get a sense (no pun intended) that it was better built. In fact, I felt it was not built as well as the Nexus One, which is essentially the same phone. But at the end of the day, what matters most is that you're happy with your purchase. As far as the Evo4G is concerned, when that'll be released is anyone's guess. I'm thinking that Sprint is holding out until AFTER Google I/O, which is May 19, to incorporate 2.2 and Flash.
     
  10. esmith818

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    What did your "upgrade" cost out of pocket? I like the Incredible (a co-worker just got one), but I don't know that I like it enough to drop another $500 just to upgrade. The Droid is still a very nice phone, and I don't seem to have the same issues with email that you were having.
     
  11. cdodge

    cdodge Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I paid 530 for the incredible and just sold my droid for 290 on ebay so over all it cost me about 300 afte ebay rapes me with their fees :)

    like i mentioned earlier though the biggest thing that impressed me is the e-mail support that the droid didnt have. (well they had it but they failed on it.) i was not expecting these feature when I bought the phone but it has made the incredible worth the upgrade for me atleast. If you dont use exchange and pop 3 i would say stick with the droid.

    really other than the better e-mail support i was happy with my droid.


    I just realized i have dust under my screen which the droid did not have so that racks up another negative on the incredible.
     
  12. Legacystar

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    too bad people didn't wait for bugless beast v1.0 because wow the droid screams now. it's like a new phone all over again
     
  13. nstallion

    nstallion Well-Known Member

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    I think very few of the people who went from Droid to Incredible were rooted. Stock vs stock I'm sure there's quite a noticeable performance difference but rooted the Droid can hold its own.
     
  14. Legacystar

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    yah i guess you are right. the only think i want from the inced. is the ram. clock for clock the omap is faster then the snapdragon
     
  15. cdodge

    cdodge Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I agree. i used fabs nextheme with the new update built in and had it oc'd to 900 and it was fast. If someone thinks that the speed increase alone is worht upgrading for they will be disappointed. I really liked fab's nextheme rom as it had the color icons in the notification bar, almost made it seem like a new phone. :)

    I know I am sounding like a broken record here but the thing that made the upgrade worth it to me is the better exchange and pop3 e-mail support.
     
  16. nstallion

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    Yeah a few of us rooted Droid people got some stick in the Incredible forum over the OC'd Droid vs Incredible speed comparison. People wouldn't believe that a chip that comes at 550mhz from the factory could be overclocked to 1200mhz without a problem.

    The only argument I had as to why it was only 550mhz stock is possibly quality control issues (not all chips can handle overclocking) but it seems that's pretty rare so maybe it was a mistake for Motorola not to clock it higher.
     
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    I am a rooted droid owner. running bugless beast 1.0 now. I had an opportunity to use an incredible for a day today. Nice phone, but in my opinion not worth couple hundred dollars over the original droid.

    Here is a quick comparison between the two:

    Form factor: Incredible wins hands down, I have no need for the keyboard, and the htc phone felt much nicer in my hands and was lighter. Battery door design is much better as well on the incredible (i dont know how many time my Droid's battery door fell off in my pocket).

    Screen: Droid by a long shot. I hated the AMOLED screen on the incredible. The resolution seems higher on the Droid. Incredible displays pictures really well, but text seems pixelated and low-resolution-like. The blacks are nicer on incredible, but whites look absolutely terrible. Side-by-side droid displayed whites properly, while incredible had a rather bad blue tint. Droid screen is much brighter and i always prefer higher dpi.

    Speed: Draw here. I have rooted droid running at 800mhz, so might be different on stock model. Menu scrolling was a bit smooter on incredible, but the rest was basically the same. Web site load/rendering speed went back and forth with no clear winner. Incredible's inertia scrolling was setup a bit too fast for my liking.

    Voice quality: Incredible wins. Sounds much better over the phone. However i dont like the speaker design. The speaker "hole" is small and easly obstructed. If it sits funny in the pocket, easy to not hear the ringer.

    Reception: hard to tell. Droid displays more bars in my building, but incredible didnt seem to struggle with connection, even though it had less bars. Is it display "bar calibration" issue, or does droid have stronger antenna, i dont know.

    UI: Droid. I like stock Android UI with certain customizations, the Sense seems "busy" with alot of junk that I never use. I prefer a rather minimalistic setup. I did like the pinch feature on homescreen that pops up that mac-os-like selection thingy. The only thing thats nice on Sense is the keyboard skin, which I already run on my Droid. The lower dpi screen also seems to make keys a bit bigger on Incredible, making typing easier.

    Battery life: Didnt have incredible for long enough to tell, and it also was brand new.

    So my conclusion: Right now I wouldnt pay extra $$ for incredible, but if I was offered a straight-up trade I would consider it. If there was a root available for incredible I would probably take it for sure. I really really really love the form factor and lighter weight, but was not impressed with screen and plain dislike the SenseUI. Now rooted incredible with stuff cooked to my preference would be awesome.
     
  18. 3devious

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    The Ally does not have as large of a screen nor does it have video out. It also will not be taking advantage of a faster network.

    BUT

    It will have one of LG's keyboards so if it is as powerful as my Droid, I am buying it.
     
  19. sooper_droid12

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    This is true. I bet a ton of money though that there will be a market for Inc door replacements since that topographic design is hideous. Look for clean, smooth battery door replacements for the Inc coming soon. Count on it!

    The resolution of the DROID seems higher because it IS higher. The resolution of Samsung's VisualVGA AMOLED uses a PenTile structure for pixel grouping. Effectively, these are not true 800x480 resolution screens, but "appear" like 800x480 screens. The actual resolution is something on the order of 392x653, far, far, far less than what you paid good money for.

    Blue tint is a by-product of AMOLED. Some OLED screens will have a blue tint and yellow tint is an indication that the OLED screen may be going bad. Another one of the reasons that Samsung went with the PenTile structure is that the blue pixel in particular is twice as large as the green pixels. Inherently weak in OLED, blue pixels tend to diminish and dim over time. Making them twice as big allows them to remain as luminescent over time as the OLED ages.

    This is NOT a weakness in LCD screens with LED backlights. Couple that with poor sunlight performance, I don't know why anyone would consider this first generation OLED screens for mobile phones as an advantage. Super AMOLED is suppose to rectify some of these issues, but Samsung is sticking to the PenTile structure, retaining its VisualVGA position (or perceived resolution).

    Menu scrolling, page-to-page transitions are all a product of the Sense UI. Compared to the Nexus One, the Inc was noticeably smoother and quicker, IMO. Incidentally, it's not "inertia scrolling"; I've seen this term mis-used. The terminology is "kinetic scrolling." But it seems that people are using them interchangeably so much that they're becoming synonymous.

    Really? This must be a personal issue. I feel the speaker of the Inc is not as loud or as clear as the DROID. Much better than the Nexus One, but not as good qualitatively as the DROID. The earpiece is just as bad as the Nexus One. Small dynamic range.

    I'm still trying to get my hands on my buddy's Inc to test this with actual data numbers, than bars. It seems that the bars are not an accurate reading of strength.

    I think this is a personal taste issue. Some like the MT-enabled keyboard for Sense and other of the fancy doo-dads of Sense. What is important to note is that Sense enabled phones are not considered pure Google experience devices and may not easily receive updates to the latest OS. This is an important point that many people fail to consider. As for the keys, they seem bigger because the screen is actually bigger. The diagonal may be the same 3.7", but due to resolution, it's a more squarish screen (which I think helps for typing accuracy; see iPhone).

    Biggest complaint so far, but so are all the initial complaints for these smartphones as people rag 'em, having them on all the time. When the usage settles down, I think so will the complaints. But I do believe that the battery life is probably not quite as good, but the difference isn't as staggering as people make it out to be.

    Thanks for another review of the device! Good stuff.
     
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  21. 3devious

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    Well, someone said that you can't turn it off. I am not sure what that means. An N1 user said that all you have to do is load Helixlauncher 2 and set it to default. He hasn't confirmed this for the Incredible when I asked but that wasn't long ago and he probably has more of a life than I do right now. ;)
     

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