Sorry for the duplicate post I can't change the Title in the other post "New Firmware update - root problems" , So I am starting a new thread. After trying several methods.. I was able to Root using POOT. Bin4ry's root method did not work for me (I Tried V2, v17, V18) And seeing as I rooted the Hydro over 10 times successfully prior to the Update I thought this would help others. more info here: http://androidforums.com/rise-all-things-root/686996-new-root-method-no-pc.html Credit goes to MyFormIsCrack over on the rise forums. New Root Method No Pc Prior even posting how can I make this my own thread instead of being sticked especially when I'm the only one so far who has this? On my initial/first reply was solely asking to have this as a seperate thread and not being moved by a mod into the sticky.Basically you do the following: 1)Enable usb debugging in dev ops 2)Download poot: http://db.tt/0HqxEURT 3)Download minstro 2 from store 4)Download superuser from store 5)Run poot 6)Pushes su to xbin 7)Go into superuser and update binary (I skipped this step for some reason I lose root after doing this) 8)If done right you now have root 9)For testing on already rooted phones use temp unroot through superuser and repeat this worked for the rise, and for me for the hydro. Bin4ry's root I could not get to work (after the "Kyocera Update Tool" downloaded and installed new formware ) hope this helps someone here. If I helped you hit the thanks button!