Nexus One = FAIL


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  1. digdug

    digdug Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Seriously, someone has to call out the Emperor's lack of clothes. It just has to be said. Nice phone (indoors), but hardly a game changer. I feel for all of you who switched to T-Mobile to buy this. or - YIKES - paid $530 buckaroos for an "unlocked" phone which is locked to one carrier.

    EDIT: I should amend my statement. The phone itself is not a failure. Its a nice phone with nice features. Everything else about it - the way it was launched, the customer support, the extent of its specs over existing phones - is a complete disappointment. This was supposed to be a "game changer", and in retrospect, the absurdity and arrogance of Google's stance is worrisome.

    I was excited for Android to blow up and get big, and thought that there'd be noone better to do it than Google. But they've mucked up the whole thing and I'm worried they are going to put people off of the entire OS because of their amateur mistakes.
     

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    smitty24 Well-Known Member

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    reasoning?

    i love it. I never had an iPhone though...
     
  3. sooper_droid12

    sooper_droid12 Well-Known Member

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    DD, do you even own an N1 before you start a thread called N1 = FAIL!?
     
  4. muzicman0

    muzicman0 Well-Known Member

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    OP = fail. Seriously. I have used an iphone before, and I would take a N1 over an iphone any day. The N1 is literally the best phone I have ever owned. May not be for others, but to say it failed it absolutely ridiculous.
     
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    what29 Well-Known Member

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    I just sold my iPhone on ebay item here 280450485757 [​IMG]because i like the N1 so much. I have had an iphone since they came out and at first i did not like the N1 as much but the more i used it the better it got. Sure no phone is perfect but this one gets my two thumbs up, and i was an iPhone fanboy, it is gonna take something great to get me to switch back.

    So yes, i paid 566 after taxes but sold the iphone for 700 on the bay, got out of the f'ing iphone data plan and am saving 20 per month with att....you do the math

    again, this is comming from a dedicated iphone user... and to the OP who may think i just pulled any iphone off ebay and linked it, send me a message on there or prorollers.net, my website, i will reply from my N1 with the built in :)'s
     
  6. digdug

    digdug Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Versus an iPhone, I'm with you there. But it is a repackaged DROID with a faster processer, a screen with lower res and less visibility. It isn't a "game changer" - this is the part of the N1 experience I am referring to.

    Pickup a Droid and see how "drastically" different it is.
     
  7. sooper_droid12

    sooper_droid12 Well-Known Member

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    Again... I ask: Do you even own an N1? Shoot, do you even own a DROID?
     
  8. digdug

    digdug Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I own a Droid, wife owns a Droid Eris and have toyed with a Nexus One more than once (though the same physical model, not more than one).

    I think I hit a nerve with the subject of this thread, which actually wasn't my intention. I just wanted to state that I think that was I was personally looking forward to from the N1 was far more than the specs of the phone. We all knew - those of us phone geeks trolling the tech blogs as I am sure you include yourself among - early on that the phone wasn't technologically much more advanced than the Droid.

    What was so exciting about the N1 was that it was supposed to bring Android to the masses and be a paradigm shift. That was the "superphone" part of the N1 to me, and frankly, on those counts Google had roundly failed. They have generated significant negative press about the phone (and about Android), have continued to show a childlike incompetency on how to deal with consumer outrage and, in my eyes, have threatened the viability of future Android phones. Thank GOD the Droid sold as well as it did - *that* phone, I believe, will be seen as the one responsible for Android's mainstream success if that comes to be.

    Google sold this phone with the expectation that it would have to be an instant hit because it was by Google. That sort of arrogance, they shouldn't have. They aren't Apple. They don't know how to sell things. Create useful aggregation services and innovate? Yes. But, apparently, that's as far as it goes. They can't' continue to hide behind the "beta"ness of their projects to abdicate responsibility for when their services fail.

    Anyone wanna buy a GoogleWave invite? ;)
     
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    sooper_droid12 Well-Known Member

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    Once 2.1 drops for DROID, I think we'll see that there isn't much separating the DROID from the N1 other than a faster processor.
     
  10. FLT

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    Except the droid is ugly? :)
    And I really don't want a h/w keyboard...
     
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    sooper_droid12 Well-Known Member

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    Except the DROID is ugly? What are we in the second grade? If you like the N1 because of its form factor, great! More power to you. Far be it from me to dissuade you of anything different. But that still doesn't negate the fact that Google did not do anything substantial in the release of the N1.
     
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    I don't think it's a fail. I haven't seen any ads or google say "throw your iphone in the toliet because were king now". I came from a first gen iphone to the N1.

    I think whatever company replaces the smartphone with a new device will be a game changer. Other than that it's going to be the same old faster and pretty smatphone race.
     
  13. JSchu22

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    Did I miss the memo where Google said "The Nexus One is the greatest thing ever, even the Droid that was launched 5 minutes ago!"?

    Some people need to lighten up and get the [place name of their favorite phone here] out of their a**- its really hurting their objectivity.

    And oh yeah- I also think the N1 is better looking than the Droid, which can certainly be selling point.
     
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    I agree with the "ugly" statement. The Droid has no aesthetic appeal, and the keyboard is completely worthless. To say Google did nothing substantial is ridiculous. The Speech to Text thing is a pretty big deal. I do almost all my "typing" that way now. The live wallpapers are really nice and add a new dimension to the phone. The form factor is amazing. Further, the materials it was made out of seem much more durable. I hate the way people who have iPhones have to put them in cases, almost doubling the thickness, to keep it from getting scratched up and looking like crap. I mean what's the point of the sleekness, like the N1 has, if you have to do something like that?

    To the OP thinking he "touched a nerve" or however you said it. You did no such thing. You are just an idiot that came into a forum of people who love a product and started bashing it, even if unintentionally. Very few people here think the N1 is a failure and most are completely in love with their phone. If you like your Droid, then more power to you. Just go back to the Droid forums then. In all honesty, you sound more like a butt-hurt Droid owner, who is regretting his purchase because he now owns substantially inferior hardware. In the sli chance that you do actually like your Droid over an N1 though, all I can say is I'll take my slimmer phone, with the faster processor and to each his own.
     
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    sooper_droid12 Well-Known Member

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    Speech-to-Text was already implemented in part, but even so, it's not novel. Is it novel because now it's implemented for every text field? Live Wallpapers? That's what you consider to be a substantial achievement? Give me FREE VoIP. Give me Apps2SD. Shoot, I'll even take a better music interface. Give me HD video record. Give me a better UI/UX. I think this is precisely why Google said that the N1 represents only an incremental improvement over previous Android phones. As for the Teflon coating: Ever seen the surface of a non-stick cook pan that's used regularly? Teflon doesn't mean that it's impenetrable. Teflon was created for its low frictional properties, not for durability.
     
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    The expectations were just way to high, I don't know what people were expecting tbh. Please don't tell me you believed the $199 unsubsidized pricetag rumour...

    This is the most powerfull Android phone yet: 1Ghz & 512RAM what the hell do you want more? The price isn't even that high, well maybe for Americans the $530 seems alot but over here in Europe (where we're used to buy phones unsubsidized) it's the cheapest 1Ghz phone you can find. The HTC HD2 (Leo I think it's called in US) is $140 more expensive (after taxes & import!) + WinMo.

    The UI has definitely improved in 2.1, just look at the Gallery, menu, wallpaper. It's just a matter of time before they redesign the music app & the other bits. Just look at the 1.6 -> 2.1 improvement and that's done in less than 6months...
     
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    sooper_droid12 Well-Known Member

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    The expectations were high because this was legitimately the Google phone. It was supposed to bring the best of what Google has stood for. Don't tell me that after Google acquired Gizmo5 that that doesn't naturally flow to free VoIP integration with Google Voice. Instead, they bring us Google Earth? The application has been running on iPhone for how many months now?!

    Most powerful Android phone after the HD2 stole the thunder for most power smartphone months before the N1 was released. And then 512mb of RAM, of which a busted kernel is only allowing 190mb of it to be user-available!? Sort out the bugs, give the consumer more available RAM, not 40mb less than a DROID!

    I've used Gallery 2.1 and it's not improved. Yeah, they added 3D elements and swipe, but honestly, what's the point of 3D if all it does is tilt your folders? Who cares? What menu improvements? The Cube? Laughable. That's the best Google could come up with? With the way people are racking up apps, the AppTray is becoming obsolete. Give me a way to natively put my apps into folders, sort, etc. I don't have any doubt that Google is working on Fit & Polish. In fact, Erick Tseng said there's a WHOLE department called "Fit & Polish" working on it.

    Here's what I wish, for Android's sake, not just the N1: I wish Google would have waited before releasing the phone. I wish they would have put some more thought into it before saying THIS IS THE GOOGLE PHONE! Don't make it incremental. Make it a revolution. Make it a sign of things to come. That's not the N1. Because if the N1 is the sign of things to come... man, Android looks like it has a long, long, long road ahead of them.

    Don't misconstrue this as an N1 bash. I'm bashing Google. They dropped the ball on this release. The N1 is a great phone, but it shouldn't be called the Google Phone. It should have been a phone released on T-Mo like the G1 and eventually found its way to other carriers.
     
  18. digdug

    digdug Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    "Don't misconstrue this as an N1 bash. I'm bashing Google. They dropped the ball on this release. The N1 is a great phone, but it shouldn't be called the Google Phone. It should have been a phone released on T-Mo like the G1 and eventually found its way to other carriers."


    This is what I was getting at, though I am woefully less articulate. This was my point. The N1 wasn't supposed to be just about the phone - and Google's CES pre-empting product announcement was meant to convey as such - although just another phone is all that really came of it all.
     
  19. Inhuman

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    Droid has a narrower screen horizontally when the phones are standing upright than the n1
     
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    This is true because they are both still 3.7". The only way you're going to fit 26,000 more pixels into the DROID screen under the same diagonal dimension is to stretch the screen longer. But what it does is give the DROID a true 16:9 aspect ratio. Perfect for HD video.
     
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    true.
    but this works only for landscape, but when your trying to use the phone upright, its a bit too skinny for my liking. Like for the software keyboard, widgets, web viewing or maps at that particular angle.
     
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    sooper_droid12 Well-Known Member

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    true.
    but you can also argue that in landscape, you can see the full width of a majority of websites and it would still be readable.

    in profile mode, I use Swype, which IMO is a lot more accurate than the native keyboard. but this ignores the fact that I can watch HD content without black borders and speaking of maps, that wide real estate comes in handy ;)

    each screen has its strengths and weaknesses.
     
  23. kennyidaho

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    It's the same freaking OS with some added improvements. So really I don't know what the hell you expected! Buy a HP computer then buy a Dell computer....besides differences in hardware at the end of the day the experience is about the same because they are both running Windows. Take blackberry or Windows Mobile devices. Sure you have different hardware options but in the end they are still running Blackberry OS or Windows Mobile.

    The game changing aspect of the Nexus One or more correctly put Android is not a superficial change of user experience.
     
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    digdug Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Obviously. I've run several versions of the 2.1 port on my Droid to know, as have many others here. That wasn't the point of the thread.
     
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    kennyidaho Well-Known Member

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    No in fact I did read the thread. I read the point about you thinking Google was arrogant. I read your points about the support issues. I even read the point where you said that you knew it wasn't technically much different then the Droid.

    I am addressing your "repackaged Droid" statement. Anyone who expects anything different is a bit naive.
     

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