Note 3 and Bluetooth 4General


  1. Simon_Gardner

    Simon_Gardner Well-Known Member

    I think I'm right in saying the Note 3 has low energy Bluetooth 4 - not much available on Android devices (is that right)?

    The reason I'm interested at the moment is the "lost items" tile device and App being developed...
    Tile app
    The developers say "Q. No Android support?
    "A. At this time Android does not support Bluetooth 4.0. A few Android phone manufacturers have released BLE SDKs, however they are lacking in quality and stability. At Tile, the quality of our products is of utmost importance, and until there exists an Android platform that meets our quality standards, we will not be releasing a Tile app for Android."

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  2. The_Chief

    The_Chief Accept no imitations! Moderator

    According to GSM Arena, full specs include BT 4.0 with A2DP, LE, and EDR. So yes, Note 3 will have Low Energy :)

    Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - Full phone specifications


    EDIT: I e-mailed the Tile team and let the know to go ahead and PLEASE port an Android version of Tile. I'm sure they would love to hear from more people... it might help them gauge demand for it. WOW, that's an awesome concept!
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  3. Simon_Gardner

    Simon_Gardner Well-Known Member

    I was really impressed. Let's see if it comes to pass anyway. Still being developed.
  4. Scootmien

    Scootmien Well-Known Member Contributor

    That is an awesome concept. I love it. Once they decide to release an Android app, i'm buying some. I'll mail them and tell them there is more support for this app on Android than they think.
  5. BobF

    BobF Active Member

    Thanks for the heads-up. I have also emailed the Tile team . I mentioned that the Note 3 will have Bluetooth 4.0 support and that I hope the Tile team would test Tile with it. Hopefully if enough of us email them we will get their attention!
  6. Simon_Gardner

    Simon_Gardner Well-Known Member

    This concept was floated on breakfast news TV here a month or two back and the news anchor - a well known tech geek - just didn't understand the main point that a critical mass of apps would be searching for your missing item all over the place - not just (as he thought) your own (short range Bluetooth 4) phone/tablet. Its power relies on mass take up. Which would seem to mean an Android version makes some commercial sense to make the device that much more viable.

    But it's still not a reality for IOS yet...

    What's the situation with other Samsung devices like the S4, the Mega and Note 10.1. Are they Bluetooth 4 compliant?
  7. The_Chief

    The_Chief Accept no imitations! Moderator

    Not sure... that would take a search for BT 4.0 compliant devices, should be easy enough :)
  8. drexappeal

    drexappeal Well-Known Member

    That's the oddest statement I've ever seen because the Note 2 has Bluetooth 4.0...LOL. I think the statement is more-so, "um, we're not sure how to program for android, so we're not going to go that route."

    After looking at what that app does, I can't see why anybody using Android would pay money for it. There are so many other good/better alternatives out there.

    And Google just released this a month or two ago:
    https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager

    I can attest to the device manager working perfectly well, as I was able to locate a family member's device, at my house, when she thought she had left it somewhere. I activated the ringtone, which allowed her to find it hidden under one of the pillows in my house.
  9. BobF

    BobF Active Member

    I was interested in the the idea of putting these tiles on other devices besides our phones, such as my wife's keys! But I agree it's a bit of a gimmick. I can be a sucker for gimmicks, however.... ;)
  10. Simon_Gardner

    Simon_Gardner Well-Known Member

    I'm impressed your car keys or your pocket camera have a ringtone.
  11. drexappeal

    drexappeal Well-Known Member

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  12. Simon_Gardner

    Simon_Gardner Well-Known Member

    I think that still misses the point as per post above. It's not particularly about your phone and one missing item. It's about potentially hundreds of thousands of phones and your one missing item.
  13. The_Chief

    The_Chief Accept no imitations! Moderator

    The only issue I have with Tile is that the tags only last one year... then they need to be replaced. You would think that they would have put wireless inductive charging in there somehow, rather than a standard battery :(
  14. Simon_Gardner

    Simon_Gardner Well-Known Member

    That's actually what I think makes the whole thing that much more viable. Excellent income stream for those guys.

    (Time to confess I already had 4 on order as of 2 months ago on their 4 for 3 deal.)
  15. drexappeal

    drexappeal Well-Known Member

    Just re-read your analogy. Not sure I understand the hundreds of thousands of phones.
  16. Simon_Gardner

    Simon_Gardner Well-Known Member

    You lose something with a tile attached. Your phone looks for it. Everyone else's phone with the tile.app looks for it in their vicinity too.

    As I understand it, that's the plan.
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  17. BobF

    BobF Active Member

    Only others to whom you've given permission can search for your tiles.

    This is from the Tile FAQ:

    Q. Can other Tile app users search for my Tiles?

    A. No. The Tile team takes your security seriously. Only you and the Tile users you've explicitly shared your Tiles with can search for your Tiles.

    Still it's pretty powerful.
  18. Simon_Gardner

    Simon_Gardner Well-Known Member

    Sure "others can't search for your tiles". But you can - via their devices. Not the same thing. That's my understanding.
  19. Simon_Gardner

    Simon_Gardner Well-Known Member

  20. drexappeal

    drexappeal Well-Known Member

    After watching the video and your reply, I see what you were getting at with the analogy, now. Realistically, it'll just depend on how many people actually have/use the tile app. So, if it catches on like the WAZE navigation app, then it could be useful. But, realistically, the app only helps show the item if it's within vicinity of someone else that has the tile app.
  21. Simon_Gardner

    Simon_Gardner Well-Known Member

    That's it in a nutshell.

    In any case, the Note 3 should be technologically capable.
  22. drexappeal

    drexappeal Well-Known Member

    Yeah, the excuse of Android not being compatible with BT 4.0 just sounds like a b.s. way to not make an app for Android compatibility.
  23. ovrrdrive

    ovrrdrive Well-Known Member

    I don't think an app like this will really take off until a really bug manufacturer like samsung has this app running on phones in the stock rom. Deploy it in 5 million phones and its a game changer.
  24. Simon_Gardner

    Simon_Gardner Well-Known Member

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