***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**General

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  1. BlueBiker

    BlueBiker Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure they can manufacture enough Exynos 4410. My understanding is that some of the SGS2 use non-Exynos because of supply problems.

    Bionic may have UI lagginess due to Blur and the fact that it's pushing around 35% more pixels than SGS2. Prime is supposedly going to be vanilla, but it will have even more pixels. Bionic's 4430's GPU isn't very good, but the 4460 w/same GPU will be clocked 26% higher.

    Perhaps in 3D apps, but I think CPU-wise a 1.5GHz 4460 will be considerably faster.

    See above, maybe they don't have enough available.

    What does that matter? If a chip isn't ready for a 3rd party to sell, it's not ready for Samsung to sell directly either.

    I thought the SGS2 HD LTE isn't shipping until 2012. Prime is supposed to ship in... early November? I'd guess the videos are showing early engineering samples.

    Definitely not me!

    Pentium 4 had a crummy design w/too long pipeline, the design ran way hot, it depended on code being compiled to take advantage of its finicky requirements, and I think it also depended for good performance on RAMBUS RAM that become extremely expensive at speeds fast enough to feed a high-clocked P4. But you're right that clock speeds won't translate 1:1 between different architectures.

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  2. Thejungle

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  3. kastleberg

    kastleberg Well-Known Member

    Dang. I would guess the Nexus. It is the first that I have seen for them to remain so tight-lipped about.
  4. GoogleFanBoy

    GoogleFanBoy Well-Known Member

    P3Droid just tweeted: "How many of you would buy the NexusPrime if it was not subsidized, and no contract..full retail of 600+"

    What if Verizon does decide not to subsidize? Aside from the fact that they'll undoubtedly sell less phones, Verizon doesn't really have a reason to subsidize if, say, they're deal is just to let Samsung/Google sell it and they just let it work on their network. How would everyone feel about paying full price? I would certainly have to think about it, but I'm sure it won't stop me (even though I am a lowly law student, this is something I save my $$$ for!).


    This thread (rather, my addiction to this thread) has really thrown a wrench into my study plans for my first year of law school. Hopefully it'll all be worth it and this phone can take my exams for me! :D
  5. alprazolam

    alprazolam Well-Known Member

    You know, Jobs used to give fake info to his execs to see how loyal they were to Apple. When the fake leak hit, Jobs knew exactly where to go. Could VZW have taken a chapter from the book of Jobs? Or possibly to say, if you leak specs, this is what you had better leak. IDK.
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  6. HanSolo

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    I don't think I could do it. But I highly doubt that would happen. Like you said, unsubsidized = less sales. I don't think Verizon would go for that. They've got to know this has the potential to be the best-selling device of the year, especially with the iFail disaster.

    Unless the price on this phone is astronomical, like Note-territory, subsidizing this phone wouldn't be any different from subsidizing the Vigor or Bionic.

    Also, Verizon knows that with the timing of this release, many OG Droid owners are coming out of their contracts and will be re-upping with the Nexus. They'd be stupid not to subsidize it. I'm not worried.
  7. UBRocked

    UBRocked VZW Nexus Please!!! VIP Member

    Take this for what it's worth...

    I have an HTC Thunderbolt (personal phone) as well as a Droid 3 (work phone). Now my TBolt is rooted and running CM7 but I can tell you that simple tasks like turning on an alarm is quick and easy (as it should be). The D3 struggles to complete this task. You press the checkmark next to the alarm and it may take 2-3 seconds to actually respond. It's pretty pathetic. I do not blame the 1.0 GHz dual dore OMAP processor for this...I blame the software.

    Once you get the D3 up and running, it speeds up but it is just a sluggish phone overall...more so than my TBolt and that has a single core processor. I gotta believe that a dual core OMAP should best a single core Snapdragon. My D1 wasn't this sluggish and that had 256MB of RAM so the RAM difference doesn't seem to be the cause either. What's the biggest difference...motoblur! Yikes! It looks prettier but still slows down the phone like crazy. So much worse than Sense and Touchwiz.

    I am pretty sure the Prime (insert "correct" name of the day here) is going to be my next device. I signed a 1 year contract for a reason and now that I will only be eligible only once device every 20 months...I don't know that I can buy another skinned phone. Pure Google for me please!

    4.65" curved HD screen, ICS (no skin on top of it), LTE? Yeah...that's all I really need to know. I hope it is 9mm thin...I hope there is a great camera...I hope there is a micro SD card slot...but whatever limitations this phone may have when it is released, I'm pretty sure it will still be the best option for me.

    I just hope it is released in January when I am eligible for an upgrade...I don't think I could wait 2-3 months knowing it is out there waiting for me :D
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  8. th0r615

    th0r615 Well-Known Member

    I'm buying it unsubsidized anyway. Just hope its less then $650
  9. Rhystatic

    Rhystatic Well-Known Member

    I fullheartedly agree with this. To ANYONE who is complaining or worried about those extra .3 mhz or the 3 megapixels you might be missing out. I would take a much more fluid and efficient phone that does everything it does at 100% awesome than a phone with 20% better specs that does things 30% less efficiently or awesome.

    Samsung and Google might just be taking one of the good pages out of the fruit's strategy book and putting their time and effort into a quality vanilla google experience instead of a super specs machine. Which I for one will be incredibly thankful for when I first wrap my grubby little fingers around this phone.

    And Seriously, Nexus experience, Dual core, HD screen, LTE, ICE CREAM SAMMICH. Those 5 qualities are unprecedented in any one single phone yet to date. This is going to be a game changer fellas. Stop worrying either way. :D
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  10. VTarantino

    VTarantino Well-Known Member

    If that's the case, they damned well better decrease the price of my contract. The price of the subsidized phone is supposed to be built into the contract, so if they don't decrease the price of the contract AND don't subsidize the phone, they're ripping people off.

    I don't see the slightest chance of this happening.
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  11. HanSolo

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    Sorry, UBRocked. Despite the intimidation factor of your big handguns there, I hope you go crazy waiting 2-3 months. I want me some Nexus NOW!! :D
  12. trophynuts

    trophynuts Well-Known Member

    not a total deal breaker but that is something to think about. Correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't some of the other Nexus devices unsubsidized?

    ....may make me think even more about the Vigor.
  13. HanSolo

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    I can't get over how nuts this thread is. I just checked the Bionic rumors thread to see if we were as crazy about that phone (considering many of us were waiting almost a year for it), and it got to 18 pages and 883 posts.

  14. dmiller2007

    dmiller2007 Well-Known Member

    I'd buy an iPad and stick with my DX before I spend $600 on a phone. $300 is already pushing it.
  15. r4yN

    r4yN Well-Known Member

  16. LxMxFxD

    LxMxFxD Well-Known Member

    Why do people even still read BGR, honestly? I think some of the editors just wake up and publish whatever they want, to get traffic. There have been so many instances of their "sources" being completely vapor and their articles total fabrication. I understand people are clamoring for anything at all that might be true about the next nexus device, but BGR's track record is a complete joke.
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  17. red66charger

    red66charger Well-Known Member

    Steven, this phone looks so different...you know you're not going to be able to fool her! lol
  18. GoogleFanBoy

    GoogleFanBoy Well-Known Member

    I can't remember exactly how big the Incredible thread ultimately got, but this one is surely giving it a run for its money on EPICness. As far as I can remember, I got involved with the Incredible thread when it was still being called Bravo/Passion and that was around December '09 with the phone finally being released at the end of April... that was four months of intense threading! This is beginning to look like a tradition. Every 18 months or so we all get back together and speculate on one spectacular phone after another. I, for one, wouldn't trade it for anything. Also, I know someone mentioned it a while back, but this thread has been surprisingly civil and calm unlike other threads I've been a part of. It's fantastic. Let's hope the phone is just as EPIC!
  19. iowabowtech

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  20. Thejungle

    Thejungle Well-Known Member

  21. HanSolo

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  22. r4yN

    r4yN Well-Known Member

    Well... why not? :D

    I really hope this is right, this is almost what i expected...

    and with THIS specs its definitely right in the CTIA Category "Gamer & Entertainment Enthusiast" :O

    But big question: Which source to believe?

    This one sound more relieable to me...
  23. huskerkate

    huskerkate Well-Known Member

    UBR! man, long time no see!!

    i made a commitment to not buy a device until i hold the Nexus and Spyder side by side. now that the Nexus is so close, i'm realizing it's gonna be about the longest month of my life waiting for the Spyder to release... LOL
  24. HanSolo

    HanSolo Guest

    Can someone explain to me the importance of GPU to me? I know it has something to do with 3D graphics, but I don't know much more than that.
  25. dmiller2007

    dmiller2007 Well-Known Member

    Either every tech blog is throwing their hat in the ring for the guessing game, or google, Samsung, and Verizon are circulating false specs to keep everyone talking about it.
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