***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

[BlueBiker]

It wasn't announced per say, but Motorola did confirm it was an OMAP 4430 in the Razr, so we have to assume that it's overclocked to 1.2GHz, unless it releases as 1GHz.

I know it's a semantic thing, but pretty much by definition if a manufacturer releases a part for general distribution, it's not overclocked. So while the 4430 may've originally been spec'ed at 1GHz, if they released the part at 1.2GHz then it will function properly at 1.2GHz and is not pushing any thermal or electrical limit. The costs of a factory recall and bad publicity are way too high for them to be taking any risks.

I still say it's a lower binned 4460 anyhow with maybe GPU speed a few other options set different is all anyhow. Would be nice if such info was published.

That may well be true. I still think the likelihood of two different chips from the same company in the same family running at the same clock speed but being different models is low. If Moto updated their site to say that RAZR is actually a 4430, in theory Google or Verizon could do the same w/Nexus. It's also possible that somebody at Motorola screwed up.

EDIT: Clarified RAZR vs. Nexus.

 

[GMK83]

Now that it is official I wonder what I could sell my Dinc for. hmm

 

[BuTbKa]

Guys, did you notice there is only one model of Galaxy Nexus Listed.... So, I would think we will get only one version. Which one, your guess just as good as mine.

If VZW trying to promote Razr and downplay GN...we'll get 16g.

Verizon Nexapoclypse continues: Galaxy Nexus and Rezound on Nov 10 still looking good | Android Central

I am still hopping for 11/10!

Notice too how there was no mention of battery on the specs....hmmmm

 

[cereal killer]

Razr does not have the 4460 either, so two substantial differences. The lot price of the 4460 must have been prohibitive enough for Motorola to OC a 4430 instead.

Rush the 4430 is not OC'd that's the speed of the chip.

edit: disregard Bluebiker did a fantastic job of explaining it

 

[Russellmaniakw]

Yeah wasn't the cutoff date for last unlimited data July 7th? And if you had it before then whether 3g or 4g you get to keep it for at least your next upgrade even with 4g?

My contract expires on the 29th. I was under the impression that I couldn't upgrade and keep my data plan after that.

 

[moondrius]

As long as you have unlimited data on a smartphone you will keep it when upgrading.

 

[bouchigo]

Guys, did you notice there is only one model of Galaxy Nexus Listed.... So, I would think we will get only one version. Which one, your guess just as good as mine.

If VZW trying to promote Razr and downplay GN...we'll get 16g.

If this is the case I will skip this phone.

 

[cereal killer]

Guys, did you notice there is only one model of Galaxy Nexus Listed.... So, I would think we will get only one version. Which one, your guess just as good as mine.

If VZW trying to promote Razr and downplay GN...we'll get 16g.

I agree with the 16GB model but not for the reason you gave i.e downplay RAZR.

 

[Medion]

I think at this point we can assume it's not going to have a microSD slot.

Allow me to clarify. I know it has no SD slot. 16GB means no purchase for me, while 32GB is a definite purchase for me. I worded my first post poorly.

 

[dmiller2007]

I agree with the 16GB model

Color me shocked lol in other news, it will get dark when the sun goes down.

 

[GMK83]

I believe it will have the 32gb. I have just as much evidence that it will be 32gb as those saying it will be 16gb. Which is none, and it is ******ed to speculate and try to theory craft with nothing to go on.

 

[cereal killer]

Color me shocked lol in other news, it will get dark when the sun goes down.

Didnt think that was being negative with the cloud and all. Jeesh.

 

[Mach Droid]

Color me shocked lol in other news, it will get dark when the sun goes down.

Show me your source.

 

[bouchigo]

Allow me to clarify. I know it has no SD slot. 16GB means no purchase for me, while 32GB is a definite purchase for me. I worded my first post poorly.

I agree with you on this one.

 

[bouchigo]

Allow me to clarify. I know it has no SD slot. 16GB means no purchase for me, while 32GB is a definite purchase for me. I worded my first post poorly.

Oops, double post

 

[rushmore]

I know it's a semantic thing, but pretty much by definition if a manufacturer releases a part for general distribution, it's not overclocked. So while the 4430 may've originally been spec'ed at 1GHz, if they released the part at 1.2GHz then it will function properly at 1.2GHz and is not pushing any thermal or electrical limit. The costs of a factory recall and bad publicity are way too high for them to be taking any risks.



That may well be true. I still think the likelihood of two different chips from the same company in the same family running at the same clock speed but being different models is low. If Moto updated their site to say that RAZR is a 4430, they could do the same w/Nexus. It's also possible that somebody at Motorola screwed up.

Reasonable assumptions, but the price had to have been prohibitive for Moto to let Samsung take the high ground with the chipset and chose a chip probably with little to no stable head room past 1.2ghz.

I call 16gb for $300, but you never know

 

[dmiller2007]

Didnt think that was being negative with the cloud and all. Jeesh.

Haha had to find something now that its official. But is that your reasoning behind saying they'll get the 16? If that were the case, why even make a 32gb? Typically more storage comes with faster download speeds. Seems unlikely they'd give Verizon the watered down version.

 

[BlueBiker]

Reasonable assumptions, but the price had to have been prohibitive for Moto to let Samsung take the high ground with the chipset and chose a chip probably with little to no stable head room past 1.2ghz.

My WAG is RAZR and Nexus will both overclock the same, but I'm as curious as you to find out what's the real story when they're released!

I call 16gb for $300, but you never know

Put me down for 32GB at $300 and 16GB at $250. Pity it can't run w/the big dog 64GB iP4S.

 

[HanSolo]

Hi everyone! Did I miss anything?

 

[BLD]

Hi everyone! Did I miss anything?

Nope. Nothing to see here. Move along.

 

[gapi]

Just my 2

 

[HanSolo]

Does anyone know if CK dropped dead from a case of forced optimism?

 

[gapi]

Nope. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Laugh........ Scoff...........!

 

[gapi]

Does anyone know if CK dropped dead from a case of forced optimism?

Keep low CK, he just wants to bring up Pentile again.

 

[BlueBiker]

Obviously, this community is NOT interested in this thread for boring processor discussions.

Spoiler

cereal killer and jasearo are essentially (and importantly) correct:

Neither the 4430 in the RAZR nor the 4460 in the Galaxy Nexus are overclocked or underclocked - they are simply clocked.

And they are clocked the same.

So, it's not about heat or battery use for either processor to you, the consumer - based on those giggle-hertz.

Trust your consumer instincts - the 4460 is a bigger number than 4430 so that means it's better somehow - and that somehow is in video and imaging performance.

With the big HD screen, makes perfect sense to me that the Gnex gets the big daddy of the two - they're expecting HD media lovers.

Okay I'll try the hide thing too. Don't read if you have CPUphobia!

Spoiler

What you described sounds like standard binning, where they stress the various components individually and together using locked and unlocked clocks to determine limits.

Hey, what's w/the mention of specially microcoded 4430? Weren't you the one who reminded me ARMs don't have microcode?

If they indeed come off the same wafers, it's possible they have the same overclocking limits. If the 4460's in question really are capable of 1.5GHz stable, then maybe they would've been sold to some other company who was going to run them at 1.5GHz.

One reason for 4430 vs. 4460 nomenclature could be the 1080p specification. It isn't necessarily that they have distinct hardware (but you may well be right that they do), but that a 4460 has been binned to guarantee such capability.

Did you find any mention of the MA and CMU modules in the 4430? If not, do you conclude those are new features unique to 4460 and higher? If you're under NDA, just paw the ground three times for yes.

Please keep trying to track down GPU speeds for the two (one?) chips!