Alright i preordered a dual core box in late october from ovalelephant. He said it would be shipped the 5th, then sent out an email saying it was a manufactory problem and wouldnt be shipped til the 25th of november and that people who preordered could ask for a refund. Well i did and sent many and many of email (Around 20) with no reply back, then his website went down for "Maintence" and is still down for what now over a week. Ive currently done a paypal dispute, but if i were you and this site come back online i would stay far far away. It looks like i and all the other preorders might be out 100$ and he wont return their emails either. So just stay away, do what i did and get a neo x5 from geek b u ying instead. Also if you have any news or heard anything about oval elephant post it please.