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  1. IamGov

    IamGov New Member This Topic's Starter

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    Ok so I have owned quite a few smartphones in my day, well to be honest 32 different models in 3 years time. You could say that I am either really picky with what I get or am just looking for the latest and greatest item. Since picking up the Incredible I have been overly pleased with it's capabilities, so I thought I could comment on the most recent smartphones that have really entertained my interests! Hope you all find this somewhat useful in case you are on the edge!

    iPhone: Some say the pioneer of the new revolution in smartphone design. Some say the blood sucking tool of Steve Jobs. I say it is one of the best all around devices presented to you on the crappiest network around. Yes I said it, sorry AT&T, but when your contract explicitly reads "Do not guarantee service within buildings", and you use that to your benefit, it makes people wonder if they have to be in the great plains in order to access the MOST BARS IN MOST PLACES. As for the device it is the great mix between business and pleasure, but does have some significant fall backs. 1. There is not much capability for customization with hacking. Unless you jailbreak one of these you are stuck with simply changing background images. 2. Prior to 3G-S the devices had very little temporary memory. Maybe this is the driver behind not multi tasking :). 3. Unless you are willing to spend 100 bucks more you are limited to 8gb of memory. Now this may have been good a year or so ago, but now with HD movies, pictures, games, and much more this memory will become limiting. 4. Apple likes Apple stuff made by Apple people that costs enough to make Apple salaries ridiculously high. That's right, be ready to spend a pretty penny to keep this device up to date and running the best apps. No freebie Google stuff here!

    Droid: This device is what I like to call the opportunity window for the Android community. Prior to this device Android run phones were few and far between. Now some of this can be contributed to the fact that T-Mobile held the market share on Android for awhile, and with their lack of strong 3G support, the devices were falling on def ears. With the inception of this device on a larger, much more powerful network, came the culmination of the community. The app market has been growing exponentially and hundreds of thousands of units have been sold. The device it's self was a great build by Motorola. The design makes the device feel durable and easy to use. The slide out qwerty keyboard immediately have this device a one up on the iPhone. In addition the upgradable HD space via SD cards also drew some customers over from iPhone. From the 5 mp camera to the nice speaker package to Google maps, this product was truly the first honest competitor to the iPhone market. With all of these great items also came some down falls. 1. Motorola has not had a big breakthrough since the RAZOR and that lack of current knowledge is present with the Droid. The software that runs with Android OS is almost non-existent. I cannot speak for any of you out there, but I was expecting much more user interface, maybe an attempt at MotoBlur? 2. The ROM is ok, but not great. Combine this with an under clocked processor and you get a recipe for non-conforming technology. Soon apps were being produced that the Droid could simply not efficiently run without some lag. Hacking and overclocking the device takes care of some of these issues, but then you will run into battery issues, over heating problems, and lack of warranty. 3. Lack of accessory support. To this day not getting love from outside vendors, the Android based phone could not compete with iPhone here. It is kind of hard to do when every electronics manufacturer is embedded in making a 16 pin iPhone attachment, no one seems to care about micro-usb. It is something out of the control of the Droid, but yet will still have an effect on consumers.

    The INDREDIBLE: Now I have owned many HTC based products and all seem to push the envelope with design, both hardware and software. I do understand this phones is not as "durable" as the Droid, but then again either is the iPhone. Moto made a good shell, but HTC put together some great internals and software packages. Being a businessman I prefer the great internals over a rugged shell. Everything I thought the Droid was going to give me, the Incredible ended up doing. To explain a little further I had high expectations for the Droid to be able to interface my contacts, FB, Twitter, and various other things all within the OS. Unfortunately this was NOT the case with the Droid. HTC fixed this issue with HTC sense and the inception of "people" and "Friend feed". These apps, if not familiar with them, really show off the capabilities of the OS. I can go to one area of my phone and check Twitter/FB updates, as well as see who emailed me, text me, and what calls I have outstanding. It really put everything together. I don't really miss the QWERTY keyboard as I used the iPhone for awhile and also found myself using the screen more on the Droid than the keyboard. The touch interface is very easy to use and with the addition of the optical trackball, similar to trackpad/ball on blackberry, it makes the device easily navigable. I have not seen many flaws on this device that cannot be fixed with a few software updates. I can only think of 2 deterrents to buying the phone 1. You love the durable feel of the Droid 2. You like all the pretty accessories you can buy for your iPhone. (But just remember they don't hold a 1ghz processor and around 200mb of free ROM).

    I honestly cannot close this off with a little love to my friends over on Blackberry. Those devices are the true pavers of this community. Without the innovations RIM developed over the past decades we would not have the smartphone community that we see today. I loved my Blackberries, but sad to say the times are passing RIM as more and more users like to do more with their devices than just email. Yes I know you cynic out their, Blackberries do a lot more than email, but play around with one for awhile (i.e. browser, FB, nav, etc..) and you will see a lag. Now do the same with an Android or iPhone....see the difference? Yeah I though so.
     

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  2. destardi

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    After owning the Droid, I think this was a fair assessment. As far as the iPhone I was shocked that it couldn't do something the Droid could, as I was one of the people hoping against hope that it would eventually settle at Verizon.

    No multitasking as we know it on the iphone?? (I LOVE the Shade notifications in Android! So easy and unobtrusive!) Such limitations shocked me that it could be so popular and yet not have a simple, basic function.

    The MotoDroid IS made very well, but ultimately the great fantastic super duper (hehe) camera on the Incredible, plus the fast processor and 7 screens won out.

    Love it.
     
  3. Ruben

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    Well written and I have thought about accessories, but we have all we need.
     
  4. walechamp

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    Thanks for the article, it seems to be a fair representation of all three phones. The incredible just needs to be handled with more care than the droid, it seems, with all of these cracked screen and battle-scarred one week-old phones.
     
  5. tranceFusion

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    I have been considering returning my Inc for a Moto Droid because of three complaints of mine about the Inc: Call voice quality subpar, bad battery life, and durability concerns.

    Clearly you feel that the Moto Droid wins in the durability department.. how about call quality and battery life?

    Is the processor speed noticeably slower than the Inc?

    Does adding a UI like Helix make up for the lack of Sense?
     
  6. dgourd

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    About your battery concerns, the initial battery life on the phone was terrible. What I found to greatly increase battery life (without changing any settings) was cycling the battery (which you should do with every lithium-ion battery powered device). Cycling is using the phone until the battery drops to near zero. I do this until the phone shuts off by itself. Then, I charge it all the way up to 100% without interruptions. Once it reaches 100%, take it off and repeat the cycle (hence the name cycling).

    I found that at first, the battery lasted 3/4 of a day. After 1 week of cycling, it lasted about 1.5 days on about the same amount of usage. This is all objective, but there is scientific reasoning on how cycling does improve battery health.

    @OP
    I really enjoyed your ability to withdraw major biases from your post. While I didn't find it helpful for myself per say, I still thanked you for the excellent information. I do agree with you in that HTC is my favorite company because of their ability to integrate every part of the phone to make a superb experience.

    I disagree with your statement about the hardware. I find the hardware on ALL HTC phones to have great amounts of build quality and aesthetic pleasure. However, this is objective and I have not had the extensive experience with the MotoDroid as you have (but with my limited use, the MotoDroid does have excellent build quality as well).
     
  7. amarryat

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    I wish people would stop posting this kind of misinformation. It's not true. It's as if someone wrote it once, and then the rumor mill spread it around. Just look around and you will find it's not true. One example:

    Charging lithium-ion batteries

    "Preparing new lithium-ion for use

    Unlike nickel and lead-based batteries, a new lithium-ion pack does not need cycling through charging and discharging. Priming will make little difference because the maximum capacity of lithium-ion is available right from the beginning. Neither does a full discharge improve the capacity of a faded pack. However, a full discharge/charge will reset the digital circuit of a 'smart' battery to improve the state-of-charge estimation"
     
  8. sta7ic

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    unfortunately the people posting this "rumor" are right. If they weren't, then how come all of us are getting better battery life after a couple of cycles with the phone?
     
  9. tranceFusion

    tranceFusion Well-Known Member

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    I am well acquainted with the plethora of battery threads.. my question is.. how does a droid with the stock battery compare in the most favorable situations to an inc with stock battery?
     
  10. amarryat

    amarryat Well-Known Member

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    Because they are playing with the phone less
     
  11. dgourd

    dgourd Well-Known Member

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    We can both throw multiple quotes around, but the thing is there is actually a debate on this issue. No one side has been completely verified. I was just showing my experience.

    While this is a confounding variable, I found myself trying to use my phone more in order to be able to fit more cycles in one day. I would literally play with my phone for no reason just to wear the battery down.

    Again, I am just showing my experience. It is difficult to experimentally verify this because of unaccountable variables.
     
  12. czm2000

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    I came from the Moto Droid and the D-Inc is noticeably faster.

    Both my brothers were over this weekend and both have Moto Droid's and both were blown away with the speed on the D-Inc. Both want one now.
     
  13. amarryat

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    Why? I don't think that it has been a debate that you can "top it off" with no ill effects. So why not attach the charger whenever you decide you need it fully charged?
     
  14. tranceFusion

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    guys, please stop crapping up this thread with battery arguments. There are 1000 other threads with battery arguments you can go to..
     
  15. tranceFusion

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    have they tried to overclock their droids? isn't the stock droid cpu underclocked?
     
  16. phobic

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    The Droid is clocked at 550MHz stock. I have a Droid that's overclocked to 1.3 GHz and honestly, my Incredible still feels faster to me, although slightly. I have a few other personal issues with my Droid (just like I do with the Incredible) but it's still a great device.
     
  17. dgourd

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    Thats cause the droid only has 256 mb of RAM while the Incredible has 512.
     
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    I personally couldn't own a phone where you couldn't exchange the battery like an iPhone. For failure reasons and extended battery reasons.
     
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    I liked this assessment.
     
  20. IamGov

    IamGov New Member This Topic's Starter

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    I found Helix to really slow the system. The improvements to Helix have helped, but Helix 2 offers a lot more and still slows the system.

    Yes the processor and temp memory available make a huge difference. On the Droid overclocking would only do so much as you only had a little bit of ROM to work with....after 5 or 6 apps going (Twitter, FB, Weather, Messages,...) the phone would slow.

    Battery life is ABOUT the same...I say about because if you were to overclock the Droid to run at 1ghz you would experience about the same life as INC users. This area is still a little weak, but that is the same story among all Smartphones.

    Call quality on the INC is much better. No complaints from call receivers either. A nice feature on the INC is that if you receive a call from an unknown caller it will ask you if you want to send to VM or take it. I liked this feature on google voice and apparently HTC took some notes.
     
  21. jlb0305

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    My daily usage has been consistent with increasing life over the past 1-2 weeks day 1 i had it mostly on charger while I set it up. Day 2 I only got like 5.5 hours with the same use pattern I have now. Actually I seem to be using facebook more now. needless to say I get through my workday without needing a charge. It has been off the charger since 7:45a (2:30p now) and I'm still at 57%. If my battery was the same as day 2, I would have had to recharge at 1:15. (BTW I have been doing excessive playing with it because someone at work just got one and asked me to help set it up so I have been going into the market, going through settings and screens and transferring stuff over bluetooth and still at 57%.
     

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