Well after much screwing around with cables I found a great cable to getting the tv out to work that won't break the bank. The Zune av cable works pretty much perfectly. I'm unsure if the audio is going to the correct channel or not but it does come out the tv speakers. There is something very cool about google earth on a 46inch tv. Also a quick amazon search shows these cables can be had very cheaply. The official zune av cable is very well made and is only a few dollars. I have a few laying around but here it is on amazon for $1.99 Amazon.com: Zune A/V Output Cable: Electronics Its my understanding that the Zune cables are the same as the iPod cables but since I won't purchase anything apple I can't verify myself. If you already knew this then ignore the post, but for those that don't its a cheap way to get even more out of these awesome devices (calling it a phone just doesn't seem to cover it).