Programs starting themselves???Support


  1. falk44

    falk44 Member

    When I turn the phone on programs like blue tooth share, calender storage, facebook for htc sense, flickr, footprints, city ID, friend stream,maps, peep, visual voice mail....are all opened on their own. I have no option to force stop. And even if i use an ap killer to end them, they come back on their own.

    I've got to imagine this is effecting my battery and usage...how do I stop these from running on their own. There is nothing in settings that I can do?

    Thanks so much.

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  2. Mskgreenel

    Mskgreenel Well-Known Member

    I have the same problem with City ID & I don't even use it. My 15 days are up and it's a sneaky little app.////
  3. necosino

    necosino Well-Known Member

    They aren't running in the foreground, meaning they are in the background, just loaded and ready to launch. They aren't using any CPU, and are just stored in memory. This doesn't consume any additional battery, storage, etc. If you open an app that requires a LOT of memory, these apps will automatically be closed by Android.

    It just helps them to load faster, making the entire phone go faster.
  4. mcapozzi

    mcapozzi Well-Known Member

    Unless you take into account the power/CPU cycles it takes to initially load them, and the additional power/CPU cycles it takes to kill them to make room for other applications.

    Can City ID be removed, or did Verizon make it a system app.

    -Mike
  5. spins1232001

    spins1232001 Member

    You could try an automatic task killer like:

    Automatic Task Killer v2.5.7 Application for Android | Tools

    Doesnt prevent apps from starting up when you first power up your phone. But if you have the apps selected in the Auto Task killer it will kill the task, if running, when you put the phone to sleep.
  6. necosino

    necosino Well-Known Member

    ATK does more harm than good, trust me. System Panel is a much better alternative.

    Anyway, the only way to remove them is via rooting and/or a custom ROM. So no way at the moment.

    Also, yes, the whole .2 seconds to start/end all of those tasks is indeed a battery hog (sarcasm)
  7. mcapozzi

    mcapozzi Well-Known Member

    Having them load faster is only beneficial for apps you actually intend on using. Duh...

    Pretty naive to think that loading all those things takes only .2 seconds of time. Nothing in Java takes .2 seconds of time.

    Do you have any idea what those apps are actually doing in the background (constantly checking for updates, keeping the phone in a partial wake state, turning the radio on and off)?

    Personally I prefer to choose what is running on MY phone that I pay for.

    Sorry if you don't feel the same.

    -Mike

    PS - I totally agree about not having a task-killer. That just magnifies the problem.
  8. necosino

    necosino Well-Known Member

    Mike,

    I do actually know exactly what they are doing. I also use System Panel to close the all the un-excluded apps when I want it to, not every time I hit the power button (which can cause really bad side effects).

    And I completely agree with choosing what is running on our phones. Hence why I am saving a nest-egg to donate to whoever can create a working root exploit first. Then I will be making a barebones ROM ASAP, which I will be sharing with everyone that wants to use it, of course.
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  9. DroidPower

    DroidPower Well-Known Member

    stop turning off Apps, your draining your battery by the system having to keep turning them on, let the system operate... if not your OS will constantly be working to turn on and off Apps all day in addition to its normal operation.

    even if an App is laying in the background it doesn't mean its draining your battery, although they're 2nd and 3rd party Apps that are corrupt or design with faults... beware.

    I had ADVANCE TASK KILLER installed in my DROID and the first couple of days of owning my INCREDIBLE, then i uninstalled it and notice no battery drain letting the system operate on its own.
  10. mcapozzi

    mcapozzi Well-Known Member

    I'd have to agree with that statement, if you aren't able to keep unwanted apps from starting, you won't be doing yourself any favors by killing them just so your phone will uncontrollably start them again.

    It'll be a neverending game of app Whack-a-Mole.

    -Mike
  11. Twistax

    Twistax Well-Known Member

    I turned off the "background data" under sync option in settings, and it seems to fix the apps starting by themselves

    Ps.. i have the evo and it doesnt have issues starting apps when i want
  12. NightAngel79

    NightAngel79 Bounty Hunter Administrator Moderator

    what is system panel, come w/ android?? cant find it on appbrain. (dont have phone yet)
  13. NightAngel79

    NightAngel79 Bounty Hunter Administrator Moderator

    yea but what else does that prevent from working? (different from always on data???)
  14. Twistax

    Twistax Well-Known Member

    So far i get emails from gmail and text messages with no probs. I can start various apps with no issue. I still notice that amazon mp3 store, sprint navigation, and voice dialer start even if the phone is sleeping. dont understand why i need amazon mp3 store running all the time(will never use it)

    But my battery lasted 9 hours straight even with medium-heavy usage(mobile surfing[no 3g yet],pic mails sent, text, calls, app downloads)

    Some apps do prompt for background data to be turned on so if i use those, i enable backgroun data for that short time then disable it after im done with the app.
  15. woop

    woop novacane (OFWGKTA) VIP Member

    Try "Systempanel" with no space.

    Typically push notifications will still continue to work, however some apps that require syncing and are unable to automatically turn it on will not function, and will require you to manually sync them

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