Post here mgillespie, you ain't welcome in the 360 slim thread so this is the result. If you want to discuss ps3 vs xbox 360, do it in the right thread and post here. What makes one of them better in your opinion? The graphics? Games? Maybe it's the conspiracy about a company is making comparsion movies between ps3 and xbox 360 make it look bad? There we some good arguments and bad arguments, let's visit the bad argument: For example, the Xbox's DVD player is actually SLOWER than the PS3's Blu-Ray drive, that myth was created by Microsoft and most Xbox owners still believe it to be 100% factually true, or that multiplatform games look better on Xbox (nobody every noticed that all these comparisons come from a single source, Digital Foundry, and they have been cherry picking what titles and what bits of a game to compare) Now there you have a bad argument and the conspiracy theory, unless you can back it up its invalid. "That myth was created by Microsoft and most Xbox owners still believe it to be 100% factually true" Yet again the same games loads faster at xbox360, though the DVD player is slower. SOMETHING MUST be wrong with PS3's hardware! Also what do you think about service? Me for an example, it takes me about 3 weeks to get my xbox 360 repaired. I had my PS3 repaired as well, it took me 5 months. Great? Nope. mgillespie says: "Sorry be the bearer of bad news... This is US -only which is the smallest gaming region. And those Xbox stats are rather manipulated, as it clearly does not split Xbox Live Silver and Gold. You need to pay to play online, and only 56% of users actually are prepared to pay for something that should be free. Xbox News: 56% of Xbox Live members are Gold - ComputerAndVideoGames.com Back in 2009, Xbox Live had 17m users (56% of which were gold). That is likely to me 20m or more about now. Meaning about 10-12m Xbox Live ONLINE players. PSN has over 50m accounts (across PS3 and PSP), every single one is full unrestricted online account. PSN tops 50 million accounts Well done for derailing your thread by posting silly meaningless Neilson sample survey from one country to try and make a (failed) point. " VGChartz - Please Take A Moment To Visit Our Sponsor If look at that we see mgillespie posting around with more lies and nothing to back the lies up, other of course attacking us gaming fans because we njoy gaming on something he dont like: We see that PS3 have sold 35.5 million PS3 worldwide, while xbox 360 have sold 40.4 million worldwide. Which means, xbox is still doing it slightly better, we can say all we want about them starting first out. But if the product was crap, they would never have so many sales out there. Second out what was rather interesting is seeing the is more people on PSN then actually PS3 sales. Meaning to make those numbers better, most people have 3-4 accounts on theirs PS3 + PSP goes into the same network, yet it ain't more people there? Guess people who can, will just get their PSP connected directly to the internet instead of through PSN. Now to see another lie made, well after some abusing and attacking on american people. Oh and me, I was american as well... I heard a lot, but never that Norway was a city in US - that's complely a new one. "Sorry be the bearer of bad news... This is US -only which is the smallest gaming region." If we use the same chart we can see America is the biggest gaming region by far. The only two things we beat america at when it comes to consoles sold was PSP and DS. Rest was America dominating us on when it comes to consoles owned. Claiming that US only is the smallest gaming region is big blatant lie. Now why I say these things, I dont want to see those examples again, they are lies. I also dont want to see attacks the other person. I know I have been critical towards him in this post.