question about scores and lag fixes


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  1. HadouGhost

    HadouGhost Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    So i was curious about this ''quadrant score'' i hear so much about and i ran my phone through it and got 890. seems awfully low considering this phone obliterates every phone out there in terms of performance and gaming ability. so my question is, will doing the lag fix make it run any better? I mean i dont see any lag at all as is. the only time i ever see a hit of lag is when i go in to the dial pad. but playing and running games is a dream. hell this phone runs games that i also had on my iphone 3gs so so so so much better than the iphone. so i cant tell if i need this 'lag fix' and if it will really do anything. and if the quadrant scores really mean jack squat. all i really read/heard was that the reason the vibrant gets around 800 or so is because the quadrant app doesnt do the i/o correctly. i dont know how much truth to this there is but any help and/or insight is greatly appreciated. I got the feeling that the quadrant score is just a stupid number that is all about increasing ones own e-penis size and ''my phone is better''
     

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    nemesys06 Well-Known Member

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    i did the lag fix, and i get a 2200+ on the quadrant every time. it also runs smoother. granted, it hardly had any lag, but it seems to load all the apps instantly. if you really want the best the phone has to offer, the lag fix is a must. but, be warned, rooting your phone can cause serious issues if not done right, and can void warranty. if you're new to the rooting world, there is an app i found on the android market, just search for "One Click Lag Fix". sounds like it pretty much does everything for you. wish i would've found this earlier, would've made it easier for me!
     
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    HadouGhost Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    thanks for the input. i hear the one click lag fix is less stable though and rotting method yieldsb est results.

    anyone else? i just need a reason other than quadrant scores to do it. because as far as im concerned the quadrant score is just a number to boast about.
     
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    Honestly, if you're not having any lag issues; don't install lagfix. Yes by installing lagfix it will bring your quadrant scores in the 2200's, but after a while you might experience other issues.

    I installed lagfix just to try it and it raised my quadrant score tremendously, but after a week, I noticed my battery was draining a little faster and certain apps took longer than usual to open. So then I clicked undo lagfix and the phone started getting worse so I flashed my phone to its original state when I first got it. I'm not saying that the lagfix was the cause of that, but it might have had something to do with it.

    Its like the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't try and fix it".
     
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    HadouGhost Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Yeah thats pretty much what im saying. I can wait for 2.2 froyo. After owning a Behold 2, i've written the book on waiting paitentally for an update.
     
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    LMAO, I was on that same Behold 2 boat, flashing to every one of Eugene's roms including the Galaxy roms.

    Yeah, 2.2 will be out soon so you'd just be tweaking the phone for a little bit anyways in which to me would be a waste of time.
     
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    Lots of people, myself included, have applied the lag fix with only positive results. Funny how you say "this might have had something to do with it" and then recommend against it. My advice to the OP- read up on this problem/soultion further to be sure it is good for your situation. From my reading, it's been an overwhelmingly positive experience from those folks who have correctly followed the fairly simple directions on installing lag fix.

    You may not need it. Official update to Froyo is just around the corner, it seems, so it may not be helpful for a long enough time period to deal with reflashing back to stock. (Although this is simple, too.)
     
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    I also had positive results with lagfix. I didn't say lagfix was bad, I just said if he didn't have any lag problems then there's really no point in installing it. I mean, just to basically get a higher quadrant score and save a second or two launching applications, to me it's not really worth the effort. Is saving a couple seconds really gonna make that much of a difference in someone's life? Does a person really count every second for what they do everyday?
     
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    HadouGhost Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    i've read someone saying they havent noticed any difference in performance in their vibrant in getting 800 quadrant score or 2200 quadrant score. I've come to the conclusion its just a number to boost your e-penis.
     
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    i download the one click lag fix from the market, just to tried and it did the work, however, after installed it, run it, benchmark.... i notice that my emails were NOT coming to my phone(gmail), GTALK wasn't working, i couldn't download any app from the market, they will stay in downloading.. i had to remove this one click lag fix.
     
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    feel i must chime in. as one who tried the OCLF and it didn't work, i found the tools to manually root via pc, and another apply the lag fix via pc, and its all worked smashingly. the phone does truly run smoother, and on startup, the "Media Scanning" is almost instantaneous, as well as its response time to launching anything is instant.. If you do want the best from your phone, the lag fix will bring that. I only advise that you don't shortcut it, find the right tools and take your time. And BACKUP BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING! If you make your backup before you do anything, you can always go back.
     
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    Preach on brotha!!!
     
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    HadouGhost Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    no idea on how to do any of that or where to even start looking!
     
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    It helps to understand what the OCLF is actually doing and how it is increasing that score, to decide if you really want and/or need it. The OCLF basically takes half of the internal phone memory, creates a "RAM drive", and as a result increases read/write speed for the phone. Think of it like upgrading the boot partition of your desktop computer from a standard hard drive to a Solid State Drive. You'll see better loading and system performance, but when you are in a game - not so much. The game's running performance will still be dictated by memory, video processing, CPU, system bus speed, etc. To this end, the Froyo update should greatly increase actual game and application performance due to increases on the CPU performance aspect of the benchmarking. Obviously the best of both worlds would be using the NAND flash partition cache with the Froyo update for the CPU gains, but that much epic win in one package is probably unbalancing for one's karma.
     
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    HadouGhost Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Thanks for that info! then i think for my personal needs i dont need OCLF. i feel the read/write is fine for me. and 2.2 will be fine for me as long as it fixes the reason why quadrant reads only 800. and if not, i dont care.
     
  16. Oyasumi

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    And really, that's all that matters. If the product does what you need it to then there is no reason to do any of it. Only do it when your needs require it.
     
  17. wearespacepeople

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    just a quick question, I've installed the OCLF and everything is cool right now, but I'm definitely going to want to update to 2.2 later this month. Will I have to reflash to stock to do this? And if so can anyone point me in the right direction for some steps on how to do so? Thanks :D
     
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    The Lag Fix is the way to go. I understand people want 2.2 and that will help. But the lag fix alone is faster then any android phone with 2.2 on it now. way faster. no 2.2 phone that is out now is at 2000 flat. The lag fix at the least gets you over 2000. The Nexus1 is at 1200 or a little higher with 2.2

    So I doubt 2.2 will hit 2000+ when it reaches the Galaxy S phones. You can definitely expect a speed boost I'm sure. But I just want to get the difference out. Now one question leaves me to wonder if this lag fix will still work with 2.2. If so, it can be 2500 or even higher. But that's a long shot. I'm just here to say a little something on what's now.

    I have the epic though and really hope they come with a functional root method and hopefully the fix can be applied to that as well. Don't get me wrong the Galaxy S phones are pretty speedy already and I am very satisfied with my epic, but why not boost it some? I don't want a ROM or anything. Just speed and performance. Everything else can be native and toss in a Launcher Pro or Plus and I'm good.
     
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    By installing the oclf, you didn't flash your rom, you just tweaked your settings. So no, you don't need to flash back to stock because you're still running stock. There should be an undo button if you need to remove oclf as well as an unroot button.
     
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    edited, removed post
     
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    cool thanks :)
     
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    B-I-N-G-O! Quadrant scores are just another pi$$ing contest. Who cares? And what difference does it make in my real world use? Your score of 890 is typical for a phone that is not rooted/fixed. Does your phone seem slow to you?

    For the way I use my device, I'm completely satisfied with the operational speed. I don't sit around and play with my phone and try to squeeze every last drop of performance out of it.

    This kind of reminds me of the guys over on the Corvette C6 Z06 forum. The car came stock with a conservative 505 at the crank which was actually closer to 540. I run it on a road racing track and haven't been able to drive the car as fast as it would go even though I am in the advanced run group. Would more HP help me? No. Even in drag racing which I never do, you must be able to put the power on the ground to gain practical benefits. Yet there were plenty of guys modding the heck out of their cars to get more and more power. Bone stock for me. To each his own. There were several guys who put on blowers on twin turbos, invalidating their warranties, just to have bragging rights.

    The Vibrant is very fast, I've yet to hit any speedbumps or lag. When I do, I might root the phone or tweak it. But I certainly won't do anything until after Froyo and the GPS fix. That's my opinion, YMMV.
     
  23. Oyasumi

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    Some people do or no one would have done it. I did it, for my own reasons though, but not to be a cool kid on the block.



    By itself, probably not much at all.



    Again, if it works to your liking, don
     
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  25. Oyasumi

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    Heh,

    I guess in a giant post I was trying to say that I am the flip side of your coin. I have an issue sometimes that I am a bit verbose.
     

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