Question: Is Unrevoked a "real" root


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  1. Wile-E

    Wile-E Active Member This Topic's Starter

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    I am preparing to root my stock 2.2 Evo but am facing conflicting information from various forums (downside of following the instructions to read everything). I have heard that Unrevoked is not a "real" root in various forums (this may be old information). However, I have also seen that Unrevoked has been updated and some imply that it is a a real root.

    My question is simple, if I follow the instructions to use Unrevoked (as opposed to Simpleroot) will I have truly rooted the phone?

    Thanks for taking the time to help answer my question.
     

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  2. wake69

    wake69 Well-Known Member

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    It is a "real root" in so far that it unlocks nand. I followed the 2.2 root instructions, but used simple root since when i had my first evo, unrevoked did not work for me, so i used what i know. You can do either to flash custom roms and kernels and use wifi tether.
     
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  3. uniquenameEVO

    uniquenameEVO Well-Known Member

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    Unrevoked3 will root, but not unlock nand. Unrevoked forever will essentially unlock nand. (just at below the radio level)
     
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  4. jrstinkfish

    jrstinkfish Well-Known Member

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    I had Unrevoked Forever applied, but when I was fooling around with installing CM6, it wouldn't even begin because the phone was apparently not fully rooted. I then used Simpleroot, and CM6 installed without a hitch.

    So, coming from that perspective, I don't think it's FULL root, but it's likely enough for the purposes most people here use it for.
     
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  5. ep3n3wp

    ep3n3wp Well-Known Member

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    I think the problem with not being able to put cm6 on a phone that did the downgrade and root through unrevoked... Is that the hboot is .93... And the cm6 needs hboot .73 or something and that'd why simple root works cause it downgrades you to thee lower hboot..
    I I'mf wrong correct me
     
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  6. uniquenameEVO

    uniquenameEVO Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure that is correct.
     
  7. Imarc4G

    Imarc4G Well-Known Member

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    Is Unrevoked available now for the 2.2 on evo? I've been waiting for a simple root. The steps that came out are too confusing for me. All I want is free hotspot .
     
  8. tardmobile

    tardmobile Well-Known Member

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    Unrevoked is a real root. It does not, however, actually unlock NAND for longer than it takes to install a custom recovery. Once it's done throwing that on there, NAND is locked again.

    If you want a fully rooted/unlocked phone you have to go the long way of toast's fun time
     
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  9. ep3n3wp

    ep3n3wp Well-Known Member

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    If you use unrevoked 4 ever it turns s-off (from what I know s-off is basically nand unlocked)
     
  10. flyjbaker

    flyjbaker Well-Known Member

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    This is where I am at as well.

    Does anybody have an answer for this or do we have to go with the full root?
     
  11. novox77

    novox77 Leeeroy Jennnkinnns! VIP Member

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    unrevoked forever is a full root in that NAND is unlocked. But there are extended commands associated with the Engineering bootloader that unrevoked4 does not give you.

    The latest root procedure does put the Eng bootloader on your phone, so if you have that AND unrevoked forever, you have the fullest root. The traditional full root could be completely wiped out by an OTA. Unrevoked forever is immune to OTA updates. S-OFF stays off, so you can always flash a recovery image, and from there, flash a rooted ROM.

    And on unrevoked website, you can download a utility to toggle S-OFF to S-ON in case you need to return your phone to stock for warranty purposes.

    Everyone who wants the most updated info about unrevoked should just go read their wiki, instead of relying on people here, because even if we know a lot, we may be outdated.

    public:forever [RootWiki]

    In particular, check out the FAQ section.
     
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  12. exBBuser

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    Well said mate.
     
  13. TheManRSW

    TheManRSW Well-Known Member

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    Ok, I will try to tell you what I did to get full root with the engineering boot. It may have been the long way, but it worked for me. I've installed, and am running CM6 right now, but I've tried a few others first. I went through the froyo root thread and used unrEVOked as the thread suggests. I then downloaded simpleroot 3 step and technically "rerooted" my phone and nand unlocked using the simpleroot program. I then had the eng. boot, but everything was waaaay backdated...and if you don't choose a custom rom at the end...you have to flash a custom rom later in order to get the superuser. After flashing the custom rom and getting superuser privileges, I downloaded rom manager and updated the recovery. I then updated radios/wimax to the latest release. Lastly, I downloaded and installed CM6 through rom manager. At this point everything seems to work together, but my PRI is not current.
     
  14. exBBuser

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    Here is how to update ur PRI Update your PRI with No Factory Reset - xda-developers
     
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  15. TheManRSW

    TheManRSW Well-Known Member

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    I've came across this thread before, but I'm not sure where to find my MSL. I'm also not real sure about the nandroid backup and restore. I'm still searching and learning before I try it all out. I'm not one to jump into things too quickly and prefer searching and understanding before I make my move. Which is part of the reason I waited so long to root. I still have tons of questions about the root process, but I don't like asking questions that I know someone else has already asked...so I continue to search and research until I find the answers to my questions.
     
  16. novarider

    novarider Well-Known Member

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    Anyone heard anything about a simple root for 2.2?
     
  17. tardmobile

    tardmobile Well-Known Member

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    afaik, right now you have to run through the fun of downgrading to 2.1. After that you can do any other method you'd like to root and get up to 2.2 on a rooted ROM.
     
  18. JMD

    JMD Well-Known Member

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    Check out this thread for info on your msl

    http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-tip...change-sprint-banner-using-cdma-workshop.html
     

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