Rant Thread - What really grinds your gears?


  1. harmless_abuse

    harmless_abuse Well-Known Member

    @Bob Maxey - Thanks a lot for the response.

    I try hard every day not to give up and not to take the rejections and many times the lack of a response altogether, to heart. Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of time here. It's been a while since I've had a job, and if nothing pans out in the next month or two, I could very well be heading back to the Middle East where I grew up. I never wanted to go back there because one doesn't get the opportunities to build great careers out there like it is out here in North America. But I know I can get a job there pretty easily.

    On the bright side, I got a call from a staffing agency a couple hours ago and have an interview setup for Friday. I'm hoping that goes well, but I can't be sure it will. This person set me up for an interview for a job that is well out of my expertise level. But she believes I can do the work, so let's see what happens. Nearly a 2 hour drive each way. Hope it's worth it.

    I have a Commerce degree with a major in information systems. I love my field of study. Unfortunately, this sort of degree doesn't set you up for specific jobs the way an accounting or finance degree does. Like, I have business related knowledge, but not enough and I have IT knowledge, but not specific enough.

    We'll see what happens. I've put in over 100 applications in the last month all over the country. I've barely gotten 5 calls back. I'm sure there are others who can understand how disheartening that can be.

    Furthermore, I've tried applying to places like T-Mobile and Verizon stores, Safeway, Giant, etc. But, nothing. Some don't reply, others say I'm too over qualified.

    I'm a pretty avid photographer myself, btw. I'm also relatively young and as such never got into it in the film days, unlike my brother and father.

    Thanks for the response. :)
  2. zuben el genub

    zuben el genub Well-Known Member

    Merchants and other groups with "free" raffles or giveaways. They don't seem to understand that someone may not want the product. "But it's FREE"

    You couldn't GIVE me anything from Apple (this goes back well before the current craze) and I'm not registering with an email so you can spam me.

    I had to register with Walgreens since some of my friends tend to use the photo service. I set up a separate email account, opted OUT of promotional literature and still get it. So much for opt out.
  3. RottnJP

    RottnJP Well-Known Member

    I think you're onto something there. Maybe you could tailor your background a little better to add value immediately, and then use the breadth of your background to your advantage as you advance your career... For example, if you had commerce as your major and IS as your degree field, you could sell yourself as an IT guy with additional commerce-related skills. But it may be harder for someone to get their head around how a "commerce" degree helps their business in the first 6-12 months. If you'd like to do IT work, though, you might beef up those credentials, perhaps with some certifications or something you can work on near-term.

    I'm not an IT guy myself, and my company has outsourced most of that support, so I'm not positioned to advise you on exactly what that market is looking for right now. My main point is, you might be able to tweak your skill set to brand/place yourself a little more effectively. People are still hiring, it's just much more targeted right now. People are looking for the specific things their business needs to add value as soon as possible.

    For example, if you were an Engineer, especially with experience, I could get you an interview in a heartbeat. We've been hiring a few hundred engineers a year right through the down-turn, but laying off/outsourcing finance, legal, and other overhead functions.

    Have you tried pinging whatever professionsl network you have to find out what your background/skill set might be missing for the kinds of jobs you want? Perhaps get together with a trusted professor or advisor?
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  4. jikhead

    jikhead Well-Known Member

    Hey RottenJP, that is exactly what I've done and I'm in the same boat as harmless_abuse. I made a career change back in 2005 and went back to school and got a bachelors degree. I had been in retail management nearly all my life, and my degree is a BBA with major in Management Information Systems. This is where it gets tricky like "harmless". A MIS degree is not the same thing as a computer science degree. My school had always pitched that MIS students are managers in IT, and typically you would think you would manage computer science degree holding employees. A CS student is typically (not all) going to start as some type of programmer or developer. Here's were it gets even trickier. I never wanted to be a programmer; had I wanted to...I would've majored in computer science instead. I chose MIS because it allowed me (in my mind) to not throw away all of my years in real-world management. Instead, to incorporate the two as an advantage. However, that isn't what the IT departments for companies are really looking for. Most managers you find in IT depts. came up thru the ranks and where at some point programmers in their career. In my specialty in project management, I have yet to meet or find someone who went straight from a MIS degree (and no IT experience), into some sort of middle-management level IT position. Like "harmless", I too have too little experience in IT; and because I haven't held a title of project manager (only project coordinator), no one wants to give me a shot. It's just like when I first applied for a credit card 20 years ago, and no one would give me/you credit because you don't have any credit. Well, how can one build up credit if no one will give you any? So I've been adding certifications in the mean time this year, but it has yet to help in the end. I have gotten more interviews from it, but only a few. I then hit that wall again of not enough experience. All the other methods such as joining discussion groups, networking, etc. can still only get you so far. None of these things seem to help. For me, it's a matter of meeting someone who's willing to believe in you and give you that opportunity. Still looking for that individual for 17 months.
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  5. harmless_abuse

    harmless_abuse Well-Known Member

    @RottnJP - To be honest, my professional network is in the Middle East. Things are very different over there in comparison to North America. As such, advice from people there doesn't work well in this market.

    I have already got a CompTIA A+ certification just to try and get in low for helpdesk type jobs, but it's the same deal of not enough experience. I'm guessing a Network+ certification will hold more weight. But ultimately, it all comes down to the same thing.

    As far as advice, I graduated in Canada, and the career services at the university I attended was terrible. Their career website had a grand total of 6 jobs. As for advice, they gave me a list of job boards and websites to check out. (Sites I had already been visiting)

    The thing is, a lot of people I know around the world, are all in higher positions at their respective companies. As such, they are not up-to-date on the market requirements, etc.

    Thanks for reply.

    @jikhead - That credit card BS! Ha, I moved to the States in April, 2011 and faced such an issue. Couldn't get a driver's license converted because I had no utility bills. Couldn't get a credit card because I had no credit, etc.

    You understand exactly what I'm going through. I love the degree I have, but the most use for something like this is when you are in a decision-making role or upper management. (At least that's where the theory of my education can be applied)

    I currently live with my aunt and uncle here who have done more than enough to accommodate me and for that I'm very thankful. They've even tried having some of their friends refer me to their companies, but it's useless. Most people I come across tend to talk a lot about helping (not that they owe me anything), but when push comes to shove, they are nowhere to be found. I hate that glimmer of hope they give you.

    Either way, I have a job interview tomorrow through a staffing company for a development related job. (I have some development experience, but nothing close to a true engineer) If that doesn't work out, I have something small in the works as well. Hopefully it pans out though.

    Thanks for the responses guys.
  6. RottnJP

    RottnJP Well-Known Member

    Yeah, the "experience" thing is tough when so many experienced people are out of work. I've heard a lot of stories too about academic programs (especially 2 year programs) really over-selling their value, and setting up these grand expectations for people right out of school... In the end, they're just businesses trying to stay afloat in a tough economy too, and they market their product. I've heard graduates of 2-year programs wet behind the ears thinking they are qualified to walk in and manage a team of experienced veterens.... Just doesn't happen that way.

    Project experience is good though, even if it's not "management" per se. And you're right, in IT (really in any technical field) people often want managers who have proven themselves as individual contributors first. I'd still say, though, that you need to be able to differentiate yourself as a prspective employee. Building your educational base is one way to do that when you're trying to get in the door.

    There's a balance between breadth and depth, too... Breadth is good, but I think you need to be really good at *something* too, so you can lay claim to a "niche" and get your foot in the door.

    Anyway, good luck to you guys... Keep swinging. Remember that each lack of a response or a rejection really isn't neccessarily a comment on you- It's mainly a comment on what the company's needs and budget are at the moment. If they need "chocolate cake" you can be the best damn "strawberry ice cream" out there, and you're just not going to get the lick. So you have to keep putting yourself out there until you sync up with somone looking for what you bring to the table.

    The other thing I'd advise is take every rejection as a learning opportunity. Thank them for their consideration in responding, and ask them if there is any feedback they can provide which might help you be a more competitive candidate in the future.
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  7. draytalon

    draytalon Member

    God i hate the way the state treats you while you are unemployed, i had to quit my last job because they was forcing me to work 7 days a week, 12hrs a day, but when i worked my normal shift, the wife stayed home and looked after the kids, then when i was actually off on what should be my normal days, she would goto work and i would look after the kids, so with them making me work on my days off, no-one could look after the kids, now when i signed on for unemployment, the state told me that i need to get a job, it's not there problem that i have kids, is there no compassion nowadays. I am sorry but my family comes first, but the state makes it hard to do that and with a disabled daughter it makes it even harder, but it's not there problem, that's my problem and i need to get a babysitter or lose my unemployment. Guess i lose the money and get into debt, another added problem for banks.

    Come on congress get your act together so the country can get back on it's feet.

    That's my gripe.
  8. Dark Jedi

    Dark Jedi Guest

    Why cant you get a babysitter? I would gladly take your job and work 7/12's. Its a job. I got laid off my job because of no work.
  9. karandpr

    karandpr Well-Known Member

    Spending a whole day figuring whats wrong in the phone data connection and then it turns out carrier is carrying out maintenance .
  10. 9to5cynic

    9to5cynic Well-Known Member

    ^ Ouch!

    Stress. Hate it. Makes me unable to sleep. Life. Can't live with it, can't live without it ;)
  11. BabyBlues

    BabyBlues Trouble Just Finds Me! VIP Member

    Drama. Can't stand it. And people who try to make you feel guilty.
  12. Orion

    Orion Well-Known Member

    People who spit out their personal business in public. Its amazing how much I know a person's heart and soul in a 30 min commute lol.
  13. Stinky Stinky

    Stinky Stinky Well-Known Member

    Losers!!!

    They just grind my gears!!

    xD
  14. RottnJP

    RottnJP Well-Known Member

    Politicians.

    Those jokers are supposed to be the "best and the brightest" of this country, leading us boldly into the future, but they're too damn busy padding their nests and making it a career to actually accomplish anything.
  15. 9to5cynic

    9to5cynic Well-Known Member

    best and brightest?!? Sure hope not!

    Leading us to the future, leading us to the toilet is more like it ;) We need to redo the political system, create strict term limits and make lobbyists illegal. They do way more damage to the foundation to this country than all the prostitutes ever could lol. Damn.
  16. ParishL31

    ParishL31 Well-Known Member

    This one really makes me angry. It only applies to men though.

    When someone goes pee in a toilet but doesn't lift the seat up so splashes pee all over it. If someone is so insecure they can't use the urinal, at least have the respect to lift the seat for other people. I hate it when you rush to the bathroom ready to drop a bomb, and you have to scrub some jerk's pee off the seat because he's too scared someone might see his junk.
  17. 9to5cynic

    9to5cynic Well-Known Member

    hahah nice. Also, could it be the urinal was occupied? ;)

    But I agree, no one wants to sit in piss. It's gross. Just another one of the disgusting parts of the mens room. :D
  18. Mada

    Mada Well-Known Member

    That's why each men's room at my school has 12 urinals in there... no way to run out :)

    There's no walls in between but that doesn't bother me
  19. ParishL31

    ParishL31 Well-Known Member

    That's how my school is too, and why it made me so mad. There's 12 urinals, and six toilets. All six toilet seats were covered in pee.

    Even if somehow they ran out and they had to pee in the toilet, they're still douches for not lifting the seat. No one has that good of aim to not splash on the seat.
  20. when gears grind?
  21. 9to5cynic

    9to5cynic Well-Known Member

    clearly, we haven't met. ;) :D

    I hate the uncomfortable things I notice on a daily basis. Not sure if I thought this quote up, of if I am somehow remembering it from somewhere..
    I had it worded better, but it's late and I'm not all here. reddit. ;)
  22. mikedt

    mikedt 你好 Guide

    Overpriced designer clothing brands that rely on obnoxious and gaudy logos to make their stuff appealing to brand whores. e.g. LV, Prada, Versace, D&G, Zegna, Dior, YSL, Calvin Klein, Gucci, Emporio Armani, Paul Smith, Brioni, Ralph Lauren Polo, Evisu, Kappa, Nike and Adidas to name a few. I would NEVER buy their products myself.
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  23. Stinky Stinky

    Stinky Stinky Well-Known Member


    YES this makes me angry too!

    I just buy what ever clothing looks nice to me I don't care about brands and all that poop.

    ...

    I like poo it tastes great! :)
  24. zuben el genub

    zuben el genub Well-Known Member

    Since I sew, I can copy all those for just some time and fabric. I sew because I don't want the brand name designer crap. I can find and use retro patterns or design my own. (There is pattern drafting software) I'm only copying for my own use and not selling the product.

    I have been offered money to make garments. (I won't) I have one really redesigned pattern from the 1880s. I have a pix in a geology book of John Wesley Powell and a Paiute Indian wearing the same shirt!
  25. kastleberg

    kastleberg Well-Known Member

    This probably has been and will be run into the ground, but the Nexus launch really grinds my gears. That is all.
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