Root Returning rooted N1?

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  1. mm81

    mm81 Member
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    Thinking about rooting my new AT&T N1 to put on a new radio and to try the Sense UI, but I might still return it. Does HTC not accept the return if they find an unlocked bootloader? Has anyone tried?

    And I am still really confused if the radio updates will actually improve the performance of the phone in low signal areas.
     

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  2. daffyduck

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    A. Don't be so stupid and consider rooting if you think you may return the phone (you won't be able to)!

    B. When I rooted my N1, I upgraded the radio to 36B (3.2) and I found it improved signal strength & the phones ability to hold the signal. Maybe increased battery life a little as well.

    Be very careful what you do.....
     
  3. dkotoric

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    you can always unroot it before you send it back for return.
     
  4. jonno2k

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    Can you? I thought there was no way to relock the bootloader thus the open-lock icon always remains on the boot screen. Not 100% sure though as I haven't modded mine.
     
  5. dkotoric

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    Hmm don't know I guess I don't own a Nexus One. I'm have a HTC Hero and I know I can do it on that. As soon its available for Sprint though I'm picking one up.
     
  6. SnotF

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    The nexus one cannot be unrooted. Please do some research before you spread disinformation to people. Also, there is an all things root section, where I'm sure you would find much more informed answers from people that actually know what they're talking about.
     
  7. mi_canuck

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    no you cannot... well, i should say once you unlock the bootloader, that's it... no reversing that... your boot screen will forever show the tell-tale unlocked padlock icon... that's what HTC will see upon first bootup... there is no turning back... so be very very certain about what you are doing... HTC may chose to deny your warranty - when you unlock the bootloader, first message that pops up is 'selecting yes will void your warranty'...
     
  8. mm81

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    Yeah, it's a $575 gamble that I am not willing to take. After my replacement AT&T N1 also dropped calls (couldn't even make them sometimes) in an area my iPhone is fine with (although switches to EDGE), this thing needs to go back. Plus the random app crashes, the crappy onscreen keyboard, etc etc...

    I'll wait for the next cool Android phone.
     
  9. Talderon

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    Seems there is some confusion here...

    Yes, you CAN unroot your phone, but ROOTING you phone has nothing to do with the warranty. It is an OS level access that allows you to run commands at an elevated privilege level as root.

    This is all based on the ROM you run if it has ROOT permissions or not. You can have a bootloader unlocked phone and NOT have a ROM with root enabled.

    Now, the warranty issue comes from if you UNLOCK your bootloader or not. THIS is what you CANNNOT undo and this is what voids your warranty.

    Now, to be fair, you cannot root your phone without unlocking the bootloader, but still , there is a difference.
     
  10. ParishyM

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    i wonder if HTC has the legal right to void your warranty simply because you rooted the phone.
    it's not like rooting causes any software or hardware damage. i bet they would back down
    if you actually filed a suit against them.
     
  11. crabman

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    The warranty is clearly voided if you alter the hardware or installed rom, I am no attorney that could say whether this language would hold up in court as regards the rom. However, there is one report after another of rooted users sending their phones in and getting replacements under warranty for legitimate hardware problems. It appears that they are talking a reasoned look at what is wrong and making a decision on coverage based on their findings. With bricked phones, different story. Returning in the grace period, no idea, contradictory information on that.
     
  12. Covert_Death

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    the warranty is something THEY provide you as long as you follow PRE determined conditions, rooting being one of them... you can't "file a suit against them" as you would have no grounds, you own the phone and may do what you want with it, nothing is stopping you, but when you do that you are also freeing the company from their end of the commitment as well, they no longer have to refund you if you return the device... you guys really need to learn what a contract is and why you sign it... contracts ALWAYS work two ways, don't expect to break your end of the contract and have them hold up theirs, if you sign it, no matter what it says, no matter how rediculous, even if it says (do not press the number 9 on the dial pad" when you sign it you recognize that, and agree to it, as soon as you break that the contract is no longer binding to either party
     
  13. ParishyM

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    That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out argument,
    are you an HTC attorney or just a nerd with no social life ?

    first of all since when do you need "Grounds" to file
    a lawsuit ? millions of ridiculous and frivolous suits
    are filed every day. HTC is not going to fight some
    small claims suit over a $500 cellphone. they will
    repair it or refund you just to make it go away !
     
  14. SubyWill

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    you can't re-lock the bootloader, YET. and no, you can't return it.
     
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