root vs. stock


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  1. droidftw

    droidftw Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I was wondering the biggeswt difference between stock and root. I was rooted before update but don't knlow if wanna go through rswd lite and everythong like that. I know overclocking and wifi tether but what else?
     

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  2. crosschecking

    crosschecking Well-Known Member

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    General customization with all of the different ROMs???
     
  3. Jeffruby

    Jeffruby Well-Known Member

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    does overclocking really make phone noticably faster??

    i mean lets say to 800.

    also is it safe or do u have to monitor temps (at 800)...im sure at over 1000 you do
     
  4. OMJ

    OMJ Bazinga VIP Member

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    Themes
    Different roms
    Ability to backup everything on the phone
    If you use Cyanogenmod you get the latest updates of AOSP without have to wait for motorolas extremely slow updates. (Other roms will also almost always be updated well before an official OTA update)
    Roms have a lot of options that stock doesnt. I am not going to go into them now but if you want go read rom descriptions at alldroid and see the difference.


    Jeff I overclock to 1200 and I dont really monitor temps at all. Setcpu has a failsafe you can set. Mine is set so if the phone gets over 45C it drops back to stock speeds.
     
  5. ska.t73

    ska.t73 Well-Known Member

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    Just to chime in on temps, while it is smart to monitor them the Droid is rated to 70c and I highly doubt anyone would come close to that... I'm currently OC'd to 1200 and never go above the mid 40s with heavy use...
     
  6. slick_old

    slick_old Well-Known Member

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    It's very risky. I melted my first two Droids and my third burst into flames before exploding. It took 7 hours of intensive surgery to remove the processor shrapnel.
     
  7. slick_old

    slick_old Well-Known Member

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    But seriously, OC'ing is not very risky, especially at 800mhz. However, you should monitor temperatures with Temp Monitor from the market.

    Back in my day, we didn't have no fancy temp monitor. We just slapped the damned Droid to the side of our face to assess the heat emanating from that bugger...as we walked 3.7 miles in the snow to school.
     
  8. OMJ

    OMJ Bazinga VIP Member

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    Slick if you are going to keep hangin around these parts you are gonna need to root or else UBR are going to have to give you a swirly :p
     
  9. slick_old

    slick_old Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, when I was rooted I didn't even monitor my temps. Hell, I can tell whether I'm pushing the thing too far by placing my hand on the back of it. I had TempMonitor, but ended up backing it up to my SD and uninstalling it. Like one of the above posters said, it's very hard to fry your Droid's processor (70C?), so I never really worried about it.

    I suggested TempMonitor to Jeffruby because it gives a lot of peace-of-mind to new rooters who are apprehensive and worried about OC'ing.
     
  10. slick_old

    slick_old Well-Known Member

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    LOL!

    *slowly backs out of thread*
     
  11. UBRocked

    UBRocked VZW Nexus Please!!! VIP Member

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    Yes, at 800MHz you will see an increased fluidity when swiping screens, web browing etc. At 1200MHz (where I'm usually at), it is very nice. Apps launch much faster, web pages load quicker, and then switching between apps is greatly improved.

    Do you have to monitor temps? Yes and no... Temperature is a concern and you don't want your processor and battery to overheat. The good news is:

    1) I have pushed my phone as hot as I could...just to test this. I have never been able to do any damage nor have I heard about anyone else burning up their processors or batteries.

    2) You can set up profiles in SetCPU that control the overclock. When you phone is on and you are doing something (web browsing, playing a game, etc.) you have your phone set to your max (say it's 1200MHz). When your phone is in standby, you set the profile to clock you processor down to say 600MHz. If your phone is charging, you could set it so that it doesn't go above 800MHz (whether it is in standby or awake...this protects the battery). On top of all of that, you can set a "failsafe" profile up that will automatically take the processor down to a lower speed (600MHz for example) if your phone reaches a certain temperature (and you can program that temperature to be whatever you like...mine is set for 120F).

    3) On top of all these "overclocked" situations, my phone clocks itself down to 250MHz when it can with the same profiles. This keeps the phone cool and saves battery. If you set up the profiles, there is nothing to worry about.

    Start with what you feel comfortable with. 800Mhz is VERY safe...Hell, I think 1000MHz is VERY safe. above 1000MHz, you won't necessary damage your phone, but it might randomly restart on you, and cause you performance problems. My phone likes 1200MHz...but won't run AT ALL on 1250MHz or 1300MHz like others will. It just depends on your phone. Some people can't get above 1000MHz (but I believe every phone can get to 1000MHz with one kernel or another and be stable).
     
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  12. GirLuvsDroid

    GirLuvsDroid Well-Known Member

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    Mine also seems optimal at 1200, but randomly resets at 1250, and won't boot at all at 1300.
     
  13. OMJ

    OMJ Bazinga VIP Member

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    My phone is good at 1300 as long as I dont turn JIT on. It jit goes on above 1200 crap hits the fan
     
  14. JoeProcopio

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    as far as OC'ing and temps...i rarely use Temp Mon anymore, i'm at 1.2ghz on CMod. I used to monitor it almost everytime i turned on the phone, but if I feel it getting hot, i check brightness and manually drop the clock speed if i have to...
     

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