Rooting from stock 2.2


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  1. d.knight99

    d.knight99 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Hi all.

    Ok so I think I'm ready to take the plunge and root my Desire. But I've heard that there isn't any way to do it if you're running on 2.2?

    I hope this is wrong. What is the best way to root as well? Is unrevoked a good way of doing it? Seems simple enough...

    Cheers!
     

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    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

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    What Bootloader version are you?
     
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    d.knight99 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Hboot-0.92.0001
     
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    This is an automatic tool that works on pretty much everything.
     
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    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

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    Nice one. Thanks for posting.
     
  9. d.knight99

    d.knight99 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    It's maybe 5 months old now so I guess that means it's AMOLED?


    OK I think I get it, I just need to downgrade it first then use the unrevoke tool. Sounds a lot less painful than I thought with all these automatic tools.

    Another quick question - I've already flashed my phone once to debrand it. Part of this required creating a goldcard and I would assume that my SD card is still a gold card, or will I have to redo that step?
     
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    You won't need to make the goldcard again.

    And yep, you can't root froyo so you need to downgrade and then root.
     
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    What if I do not want to downgrade to 2.1 ..... isnt there no way to root 2.2 with bootloader 0.93 ..... ???
     
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    d.knight99 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Sam,

    From what I understand no, but don't worry, after you've downgraded and rooted you are then free to install any froyo ROM you like. So don't worry, you won't be stuck back at 2.1, it just means you can't gain root access directly from 2.2. (As I understand it, please can someone correct me if I'm wrong!)
     
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    d.Knight, thanks man, but the story with me is not that simple, I already have done the 2.1 root thingi and tried 2 different ROMS, but was totally unsatisfied with it ........ I will explain in a bit details .....

    When I bought my desire (stock unlocked and unbranded) ...

    1. I had 2.1 Stock with Bootloader 0.80
    2. I then rooted 2.1 and played with the phone for couple of days
    3. Then after reading few articles I decided to upload custom 2.2 ROM
    4. BUT after trying 2 ROMs (MoDaCo and Cryo something) I was TOTALLY dissatisfied with the performance .........MoDaCo, made my applications crash and worst of all my battery was screwed, the charging was not going beyond 50%.
    5. The second ROM I did not like the UI nor the performance .......
    6. SO finally I rolled back to 2.1 and updated to Official 2.2 OTA ..... which also updated my Bootloader to 0.93 unfortunately .....BUT I am fully satisfied with the performance,...... I still need to root though NOT to load custom ROM but to have superuser access that comes in handy in lots of scenarios like getting MarketAccess ........

    Thats the entire story, hope to find a solution ... :)
     
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    You can't be rooted and on official froyo, it's as simple as that. You can either root and install a custom rom based on froyo, or lose root and run official froyo.
     
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    So waiting for someone to root the official FroYo.. It's not impossible, right? :)
     
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    d.knight99 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I get what you mean about the whole performance issues and stuff Sam, and herein lies my dilemma...

    I am very satisfied with my phone. Simple. I jailbroke my pervious iPhones because they didn't allow me to do simple things like change the wallpaper or icons (urgh... definitely don't miss those days!) But now, I like the way my phone performs, I can customise how it looks and it's very stable. What does rooting actually give me that I really need and don't already have? Before 2.2 I was really bummed out about not having apps2sd sure, but now I have froyo so that's been made redundant. The only thing I am a little jealous of is some of the cool battery icons, you know the circular ones with the percentage in the middle - so cool, but that's it. That's literally all I can think of that would make me want to root my phone.

    Can someone convince me otherwise??
     
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    Although google's implementation of a2sd is based on the same premise, its no where near as good as a2sd+. Froyo lets you (if the developer coded it) to move part of the app onto SD card.

    a2sd+ makes your phone think your SD card is internal memory. It also has the dalvik cache there. In short more of the app is on the sd card and ALL apps are there. There are no problems with widgets etc being installed on the SD card (unlike a2sd). The actual internal memory fills up slower with the rooted version, so you can install more.

    You can control your battery better by underclocking the CPU, or undervolting it at the same clock speed, getting much better battery life.

    You can even overclock it so it performs better. Download quadrant and get a speed for your phone. Then compare it to a rooted version, you'd be amazed.

    Also, you can remove system apps. You can get rid of stuff on your phone that you never use.

    You can use proxy with wifi with some of the custom roms.

    Generally the roms are more stable, bug fixes to fix bugs that HTC haven't. Plus you can have massive amounts of customisation over what you had before aesthetically.

    You can manage memory better. You can limit the amount of apps that run in the background. You can even prevent certain apps from listening to certain events, improving battery even further.

    There are so many things. It basically gives you the access to your phone that you should have had out of the box.

    Rooting is not for everyone. It is for me though cause I'm an IT geek.
     
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    I am thinking of rooting but just flashed the Froyo ROM that popped on up these forums a few days ago.

    How likely is it that we will be able to root 2.2 or would I be better just downgrading to 2.1 and rooting from there?
     
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    d.knight99 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Thanks Dan, you make some pretty good points.

    Just a couple more things though - I take it if I don't like any of the rooted ROMs I can always just go back to stock froyo without root?

    And also which ROM to have?
     
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    Yes you could, but you may aswell put a stock froyo with root on.
     
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    d.knight99 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I didn't think there was a stock rooted ROM for 2.2?
     
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    Ok understood, what about titanium backup ..... I am happy to run 2.2 unrooted, but then all my apps which I backed on SD will only be restore using Titanium and that requires root access. How an I suppose to restore my apps on 2.2 ?????
     
  24. RaivoNaama

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    So if I want to root my HBOOT 0.92 Desire and have stock FroYo, i'll need to..

    1. Backup valuable stuff on phone (Any suggestions what program to use?)
    2. Downgrade to 2.1 with HBOOT 0.80 (link here)
    3. Root that?
    4. Flash the rooted stock froyo to the phone
    5. Get stuff from backup..
    6. Enjoy my rooted froyo
    ????

    Just making sure, don't want to mess things up :)
     
  25. teppic74

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    If you downgrade with the 'HBOOT 0.80' method and you have an SLCD screen you'll break it. Use the tool I developed, it's safe.
     

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