rooting has made me so confused that i cant even ask questions


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    dannytech_lt Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    So i wanna root my phone but theres so damn many different roms or softwares or whatever they r im confused and if i search for an answer it leaves me with more questions than i began with.

    i plan on rooting my phone but who the hell do i use im so confused i dont even know how to word this thread with my question,

    has the camera been fixed with the root? who do i use what do i use ? im so confused lol will anything b affected in a negative way with this phone .. idk help me out here ask me questions so u can get a idea of what im looking for in this rooting because im so confused as u can see
     

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    There's not many negatives to rooting. Well besides bricking your phone but that's a very rare and hard thing to do.

    Camera works with root, with stock rooted ROM, as well as with many others. Just go over to XDA forums for a nice selection.

    Read around and you should find everything you're looking for. It's all 'bout following instructions really.
     
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    dannytech_lt Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    im gonna check it out later because id really like to root my phone.. i jailbroke my iphone the day it became available and it made the phone so much better so im wondering what this rooting will to for the evo... only trouble i think ill have is figuring out what software or rom to put in unless there all basically the same just one developer changed the name of it
     
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    basics:

    1) Rooting gives you superuser access to your phone. Think about your computer at work: the IT guys are in control of it and can limit your actions to what programs can be on it and what you can modify. Now, you are in control. Rooting can be done in a variety of ways, I used the SimpleRoot method, a lot of others here use unrevoked.

    2) Rooting lets you 'flash' things to the phone, such as a ROM (a custom operating system, most popular are baked snack, fresh, cyanogen) and updated radios (helps your phone do a better job picking up cell signals) among other things.

    3) You flash things by placing the zip into the main directory of your sd card. Then you reboot the phone into whats known as 'recovery', which is like hitting F3 (or whatever your computer requires) while its booting up to get access to system info or boot into safe mode, etc. There are multiple ways to reboot into recovery. The main way is to hold the volume button down, then power up. Programs like ROM Manager and Fresh Updater let you reboot into recovery from your phone while its powered on. Recovery will give you multiple options, like flashing from a zip, creating/restoring a nandroid, etc.

    4) Rooting lets you create nandroid backups. These are full system image backups like your computer can make, which let you restore fully to the point where you made it. The first thing you do after rooting is make a nandroid, so you can always go back to ground zero. Its always a good idea to make a nandroid before flashing anything in case something should go wrong. With nandroids, you can go back and forth between any ROM you wish with ease. Also a good idea is to copy the nandroids from your SD card to your computer just in case.

    5) Rooting voids your warranty since you are tinkering around outside the bounds of what you are 'supposed' to be doing. By flashing the RUU for the Evo, you can revert to an unrooted, stock phone as if you had never done anything to it, should you need to sell the phone or get warranty work

    6) Rooting is FUN! :)
     
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    The best part of rooting the evo for most is free wifi tethering, custom ROMs of course, and kernels that greatly enhance the frames per second.

    Most ROMs are totally different, the better of the bunch being:
    Fresh
    OMJ
    Damage Control
    Baked Snack
    and of course Cyanogen
     
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    think of ROMs as different 'flavors'. Each has their own pros and cons. I think it would be nice if someone made a thread to compile these. I've only done fresh and cyanogen thus far.

    Also, rooting requires READING! read read read up on everything you can get your hands on as much as you can! People here are more than willing to help but its tacky to ask a question thats already been asked on the first page of this forum! Use the search function, do your due diligence to find an answer, and if you turn up nothing then ask.

    Once you have successfully rooted and know the ins and outs and are comfortable, there is a covenant (well not really, but there should be) to help out the noobs who are where you are now. We all needed help at one point, so pay it forward!
     
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    dannytech_lt Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    yeah im begining to understand this rooting more now im excited to do it too, how do i do a nandroid to backup my phone?
    it backs up everything so after root my phone will look exactly the same as i have it now just rooted?
     
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    dannytech_lt Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701685

    im on this thread right now doing my full reading and im doing the 9.6 beta anyone have this?
     
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    I have version 9.7 and it's so fast and smooth.
     
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    dannytech_lt Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    how did u back up your phone before u did the root?
    i see the clockworkmod but its 2.99 in the app store is that wat i use to back my phone up?

    im reading now about the rooting but theres 107 pages that im sure there will be something that ill miss..

    does your camera work with 9.7?

    EDIT: i think ill just go with 9.6 cause 9.7 doesnt really have anything there that i want
     
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    I did not back up my phone before I rooted because I had just got the phone, so I cant tell you much there.

    ROM manager is free on the market, the $2.99 version just has some extra benefits.

    And yes camera works.
     
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    You can't do a nand backup unless you are rooted. Which means you have to do it piecemeal.

    You can use astro file manager to backup your apps to your SD card.

    MyBackup will backup apps and also data (call log, sms, dictionary) etc to your SD card.

    None of these are like a full nandroid that will do a full system restore to exactly how your phone was, but it will get you all your stuff back so you can set things back up how you like them.

    I use both because I like to have redundant backups just in case.

    Remember...READ READ READ to know what you are doing. Set aside an entire evening to root. It is possible to do it all in less than 20 minutes if everything goes perfectly but something invariably goes screwy.

    AND MAKE A NANDROID AFTER YOU SUCCESSFULLY ROOT so you can go back to ground 0!!!
     
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    Can you restore a backup made by a program that works with an unrooted EVO to one that has been rooted?

    Is it correct that a rooted EVO is just like an unrooted one except that you can run some programs that don't work on unrooted EVOs? that is, sense still works an all the Sprint bloatware?

    The real difference comes when you flash to a different ROM that may remove the bloatware and sense, is that correct?

    It sounds to me that if you make a nandroid backup before rooting, that you can use this to go back to a rooted state, is this correct? And if so and the phone was still working, this would this put it back in a state in which the warranty and TEP would be in effect? Is this correct?
     
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    Yes you can restore, albeit without data because you need root for that as far as I know.

    Simply put, yes.

    ...and yes.

    You cannot do a nandroid backup before rooting. However you can flash a RUU which will unroot the phone and your service provider would be none the wiser.
     
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    TambourineMan Well-Known Member

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    What's an RUU and where do I get it?
     
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