Safe 'bloatware' to freeze

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  1. messenger13

    messenger13 Well-Known Member

    You guys really need to buy Titanium Backup Pro (if you haven't already) and backup every app (user and system) on a regular basis. I'm running 1.5 and "Files" isn't in there. So I simply fired up TiBu and restored the app. Took all of 5 seconds. Just sayin'. Don't depend on Devs to keep the apps that you like. It's their ROM, not yours. ;)

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  2. jtbnet

    jtbnet Well-Known Member

    I bought TB Pro as it's definitiely a Very worthwhile application for everyone to own thus I wanted to send the dev(s) some THANX ($$)... But I long ago uninstalled it as I always run a Clockworks backup before flashing any new version so I can always go back and extract anything I need from an earlier version from the backup system or data tarfile...

    I don't want to dissuade anyone from purchasing TB Pro, as it's the easiest tool there is for most folks general use, just I wanted to comment here for folks who may have done a Clockwork Backup but hadn't previously run TB Pro as they aren't out of luck, just takes more manual steps to recover something...
  3. s1ck s0n

    s1ck s0n Well-Known Member

    Were you able to get this done yet?
  4. lykofos

    lykofos Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all the info in this thread. I finally decided to root my Bionic that I've had since release day. First thing I did was buy Titanium Backup Pro and start freezing bloat using the lists here. Definitely enjoying root / they're some pretty cool root apps.
  5. AurJohn

    AurJohn Well-Known Member

    Ditto - got my bionic on day 1 and just rooted it 2 nights ago, bought TiBu pro yesterday and froze all that crap! WHat cool root apps have you found?

    QUESTION - When an OTA update is released and if I accept it, will it remove root as well as thaw the frozen programs? Thanks!
  6. johnlgalt

    johnlgalt Antidisestablishmentarian VIP Member

    It will remove root, because the /System partition should be formatted. There is a small possibility though, that it may not, and will only update the files in that partition.

    As to whether it blocks any future rooting, we're not 100% sure yet.

    Finally, It won't unfreeze apps per se, but if it formats the partitions, then yes, they will appear to be unfrozen.

    If it updates existing apps, I'm not sure if it will install missing ones or just skip over them.

    Also, there is the possibility that the update may not take if all the apps are not present and accounted for, so that is why we suggest freezing instead of deleting - so if that is the case, we unfreeze ,and poof! Instant update.
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  7. lykofos

    lykofos Well-Known Member

    Looks like John thoroughly answered the 2nd question, as for the first one about root apps, that's a good idea for a new thread! Made one here: so we don't throw this thread off topic.
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  8. Lars

    Lars Well-Known Member

    The ota wont take if bloat is missing. The ota wont be less than the leaks that are circulating and they do not work without the bloat. The leaks btw are intended for developer phones with unlocked bootloaders. Update with one and you can't update later because you will be stuck on an intermediate kernel.
  9. Lars

    Lars Well-Known Member

    As for useful root apps. Ad free, permissions denied, wifi tether, reboot widget, es file explorer, cmr if you are rom'ing, titanium backup
  10. johnlgalt

    johnlgalt Antidisestablishmentarian VIP Member

    I had one of the incremental updates take with 20 items frozen in my phone.

    But, at the time, I didn't think about it - with TiBu i opted to not remove he market links for those items I froze.

    I wonder if that had something to do with it?
  11. lykofos

    lykofos Well-Known Member

    Good to know. Everything previous to this that I've read always said you had to unfreeze them first. That sounds like the same settings I used when I froze my apps in TiBu.
  12. Lars

    Lars Well-Known Member

    Though I have experienced incremental updates that didn't affect root or frozen bloat over the years on many phones, I have not seen this effect on the leaks circulating for the bionic as they wipe the system partition.
  13. johnlgalt

    johnlgalt Antidisestablishmentarian VIP Member

    The Incs didn't wipe system - or at least one of them didn't lol.

    I believe it was the MR1 (the same one that broke WebTop) that didn't wipe.

    I made a post about it either on MDW or ZDA, cannot remember which. Probably MDW
  14. Lars

    Lars Well-Known Member

    Yep it varies
  15. SFWB

    SFWB Well-Known Member

    I had Global Unplug frozen on my Droid X.

    Anyone know if it's safe to freeze on the Bionic? I'm inclined to think it is, but am surprised it's not listed.
  16. tigersfan1

    tigersfan1 Well-Known Member

    I am trying to update to .893 and i am having some trouble with restoring some of the bloatware I took off so I can update. Stuff like Backup Assistant when I try to restore it just keeps saying restoring and doesnt do it what should I do
  17. tigersfan1

    tigersfan1 Well-Known Member

    I am having trouble restoring the following apps:
    IM Presence 2.3.4
    Backup Assistant 2.3.4
    Backup Assistant Client 1.0
    Email 2.3.4
    Email Authenticator 2.3.4
    Myspace Authenticator 2.3.4

    Does anyone know how to fix this?
  18. johnlgalt

    johnlgalt Antidisestablishmentarian VIP Member

    How are you trying to restore?
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  19. tigersfan1

    tigersfan1 Well-Known Member

    Using Titanium Backup is there another way?
  20. johnlgalt

    johnlgalt Antidisestablishmentarian VIP Member

    Are you unfreezing or did you actually uninstall them/
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  21. tigersfan1

    tigersfan1 Well-Known Member

    I uninstalled them and now I am trying to restore them. I only have the free version of Titanium Backup
  22. johnlgalt

    johnlgalt Antidisestablishmentarian VIP Member

    Hate to tell you this, but you're better off using R3L34S3D root to revert to fully sotck, applying root and 43v3r root, and then trying for the update.

    And buy Titanium Backup - support the dev - and FREEZE the apps after applying the update, do not uninstall them because this will happen again.

    Those files are trying to be reinstalled and they are used by another app that you did not uninstall, and they will not be installing b/c the app that uses them is already running and thus the system won't allow you to add a new component that is used by that system app b/c it's already checked for that component and in order to add it back to the system it needs to register with the running app.

    You'd have to find a way to FC that app before being able to install it back, or else do it completely manually via adb, but at this point, you're best shot is to make a full Ti Bu and then use the R3L34S3D root tool to revert, then root, then apply 43v3r root, and finally look for the update.
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  23. tigersfan1

    tigersfan1 Well-Known Member

    Okay so what do you mean using R3L34S3D root to revert to fully stock. Will I lose all my app data and stuff and could you post some links too that would be helpful. Then by applying root do you mean using petes one click method thing or a different method and same thing with 43v4r root I dont know what that is.
  24. johnlgalt

    johnlgalt Antidisestablishmentarian VIP Member

    1) In the ATR Guide: go to the first section - it ahs the links.

    2) This thread (that we're posting in right now) specifically tells you to not remove the apps but to freeze them.

    3) There might be a way to get all of this working without having to go through the FXZ restore method, but TBH, I'm not sure what else you might have done to your phone, and rather than face the possibility that later on the update fails to apply b/c of something else that is not right, it would be in your best interest to start from scratch.
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  25. tigersfan1

    tigersfan1 Well-Known Member

    All i have done is remove bloatware. And i was thinking bout a factory reset cause i can have all my apps backed up on titanium backup. Is that what you meant by the restore then root and then the root hack thing

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