"Secrets of the Nexus One Screen" from Ars Technica


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    Interesting that. Some fair points, maybe a little over critical about text though.

    It's the patterns of colour that the N1 displays when scrolling that I always notice.
     
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    As I person that has yet to buy the N1 I would love to hear more from this community regarding this article. It all seems over sensationalized to me but I have nothing to compare to.
     
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    if you look at the notification bar on the Nexus real closely, you see some pixelation around the text and icon edges... now that the cat is out of the bag, it explains why it looks that way on the Nexus, while the Moto Droid (with it's TFT screen) looks super smooth... not as bright and vibrant, but definitely more crisp than the Nexus...

    the whole thing just stinks...
     
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    So does the AMOLED screen on the Nexus have the blue tint like the Samsung Moment does? That is very annoying to me every time I look at my wife's phone.
     
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    I haven't noticed a blue tint.

    Again, I notice generally a change in tint when scrolling.

    For instance on this message box, white when not moving, scroll it up and down it has a pink tint, stop scrolling and it is pure white again.

    If you have a N1 then look at the Mona Lisa pictures in the top article. Click to show the picture on it's own and scroll it and zoom it to see what happens. I think that this is an extreme example as the picture is drawn in such a way that it makes sure that it exposes the (lack of) certain colour pixels on the AMOLED screen.

    Other wise, I don't notice any issues during normal usage.

    Again, this is down to data and how it is interpreted. I ask people such as mi-canuck, that if you'd never read this, would you ever have noticed? Does it really stink?

    No, not in my opinion - it's a great screen and in practise I don't see any problem with text and can read full web pages easily in landscape (try doing that on an Apple) and other than in "test" pictures there is no real problem with colouring (scrolling aside).
     
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    thilan29 Active Member This Topic's Starter

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    Is this a problem with all AMOLEDs or just ones made in a certain way?

    Will the new Super AMOLED screens from Samsung suffer from this?
     
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    Suffer from what exactly?
     
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    I don't have a problem with text clarity-AT ALL.

    The fonts appear really crisp and clean (maybe almost as good as the milestone and definitely far better than the 3GS)
     
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    The text fuzziness? Caused by the Pentile matrix arrangement?
     
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    About how close does one has to hold the phone to see this fuzziness?
     
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    Honestly, FFS, it is a mobile phone, not a god damn Plasma tv screen.

    There are always pros and cons between different types of displays, but for me, I will take the screen colouration & power savings advantages of AMOLED.

    This slight fuzziness.......never really noticed....and to be quite honest, I could care less. The phone/screen in my day to day use, looks fine to me.

    IMHO, this article is geek overload......
     
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    I don't see anything like you describe. Either you have YET ANOTHER defective unit or you have eye problems. I'm guessing eye problems.
     
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    Great post!!
     
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    Thanks - honestly, I am getting a bit pissed off by seeing all these "shock/horror" put the phone down posts......

    To quote Toy Story......"you are a Toyyyyyyy [Phone]!"

    If people don't like the phone, go and buy a Nokia - you will be crying by bedtime.
     
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    I find it interesting how these reviews praise the merits of LCD screens vs amoled when LCD is so flawed. The biggest flaw being that LCD screens only display accurate color when viewed directly. Move off center axis and all colors become washed out and lose color fidelity. The second biggest flaw is that LCD cannot display black unless local dimming tech is used, which only a few TV's have. Does the n1 screen have flaws? Of course. Every screen tech does. But for me I can't stand the washed out screens of LCD and the high black levels. Defects I see all the time on lcds. The flaws mentioned in regards to the n1's screen I can only see sometimes if I follow the steps mentioned in these tests. Amoled has as close to black as you're going to get with screen tech that is available today and color fidelity is solid even at extreme viewing angles. Both features LCDs do not have. Why anyone would prefer to live with LCD flaws over amoled flaws is beyond me.
     
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    the viewing angle is a very good point you bring up... and while these pics (from engadget) are certainly not the final say (we have no idea what brightness settings each was set at, and the wallpaper shown on the Desire is more vibrant/colorful by nature vs the dark ones on both the EVO and HD2 below... and the EVO screen is covered in smudges, but the Desire's is clean...), it could still give a bit of an idea how TFT and AMOLED compare side by side...

    EVO 4G vs Desire:
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    EVO 4G vs HD2:
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    More FUD. The screen is very sharp, text is a pleasure to read even at tiny font sizes. The only real flaw is in very bright sunlight it can be pretty hard to read. There are always trade-offs in types of screens.

    Now can we move on to the next FUD non-issue trying to keep the N1 down?
     
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    well today I got to hold and check out a work buddy's HTC HD2 - aka same 4.3" TFT as the EVO 4G... we actually walked outside to go to lunch so perfect change to verify the reality of the HD2/EVO's TFT vs my Nexus' AMOLED... of course I had my brightness cranked to 100% to be outside, but it was readable... i'm not sure what brightness setting the HD2 was at (wasn't familiar enough to know which settings to quickly check... but I assume 100% since he just got it... usually brightness is set to max out of the box, and if he had autobrightness on, it would have been maxed out due to how sunny it was out)....

    Well LOW AND BEHOLD... the readibility of the HD2's TFT was *no better or worse* that the Nexus' AMOLED... not saying the AMOLED is great outside, but it would seem the HD2 TFT isn't as great as the iphone's TFT or blackberry 9700's (these are 2 phones I've had that had amazing readibility in direct bright sunlight - best I had seen so far anyways...)

    so having seen first hand an HD2 outside in bright sunlight... i can now rest easier about the Nexus' AMOLED... ie. even switching to an HD2 or an EVO 4G - it wouldn't be any better.... :D


    PS - inside the office, I can honestly say that while the sheer size of the HD2 screen was downright amazing, the colours and vividness of the screen just wasn't there... it was very much like the pics a few posts above... didn't look bad, just didn't jump out as much as the Nexus screen... seeing is believing... :D
     
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    Finally, a post on this subject that actually includes some reality!
     

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