Sheesh. Nothing like a Hitler salute to show you're part of decent society...

Discussion in 'Politics and Current Affairs' started by rootabaga, Jan 10, 2017.

  1. rootabaga

    rootabaga Well-Known Member
    663

    Aug 11, 2014
    2,438
    8,039
    663
    More or less IT, lots of hand-holding
    Crazyville, CA
    Anders is the psycho that set off a bomb and then went to an island and murdered a bunch of kids.

    He's unhappy with his jail accommodations and found a judge to agree with part of his claims, so it's time for an appeal. He shows up for the appeal and proudly does the "Heil Hitler" salute in the courtroom.

    I was talking with a coworker about it and he said the guy should be in a pit, one that is so small he can't sit down, so he has to stand all the time. Kind of harsh, I think. :rolleyes:

    This story sort of reminded me of Dennis Miller's comment on Charles Manson showing up for his parole hearings...nothing like a swastika gouged in your forehead to demonstrate you're rehabilitated and ready to re-enter society.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/anders-breivik-makes-nazi-salute-rights-appeal-case-n705106
     

    Advertisement

  2. dontpanicbobby

    dontpanicbobby VIP Member
    VIP Member
    613

    Dec 31, 2011
    6,587
    3,596
    613
    Male
    Boston MA USA
    Did they not show the salute in the clip? I've watched it twice now and didn't see it.
     
  3. rootabaga

    rootabaga Well-Known Member
    663

    Aug 11, 2014
    2,438
    8,039
    663
    More or less IT, lots of hand-holding
    Crazyville, CA
    I may be mistaken, but given the proximity to Germany they may not be allowed to show it.
     
    bcrichster likes this.
  4. LV426

    LV426 Well-Known Member
    VIP Member
    528

    Oct 16, 2015
    3,086
    3,947
    528
    Male
    Software developer
    UK
    Brevik absolutely disgusts me.
    Apparently he's claiming inhumane prison conditions, when in fact the prisons in Norway are among the most comfortable in the world. Check out his cell. He gets a TV, and games console:


    brevik.jpg
     
    bcrichster likes this.
  5. lvt

    lvt Well-Known Member
    283

    Jan 30, 2013
    1,529
    543
    283
    Male
    Paris <--> Taipei
    His living conditions are still better than 75% of world population.
     
    bcrichster likes this.
  6. LV426

    LV426 Well-Known Member
    VIP Member
    528

    Oct 16, 2015
    3,086
    3,947
    528
    Male
    Software developer
    UK
    Yup, I've seen far worse living conditions.
    Although putting him in a pit is rather extreme, I definitely think that sociopaths like this need to be taken out of society for their whole life. He still has full belief that what he did was somehow right. He's an absolute danger, and needs to remain locked up.
     
  7. dan330

    dan330 Well-Known Member
    823

    Jan 22, 2010
    11,754
    3,376
    823
    ok. a small pit is .. a little harsh.
    but that prison.. is way too good for him!
     
    bcrichster likes this.
  8. rootabaga

    rootabaga Well-Known Member
    663

    Aug 11, 2014
    2,438
    8,039
    663
    More or less IT, lots of hand-holding
    Crazyville, CA
    From the article:
    I think the issue here is that emphasized word. Many would contend that he is not "human" and therefore has different rights than the rest of "human society."

    And at it's core, recognizing all of the arguments on both sides down through the millenia, it's why I'm not opposed to capital punishment.
     
    bcrichster likes this.
  9. dan330

    dan330 Well-Known Member
    823

    Jan 22, 2010
    11,754
    3,376
    823
    killing 77 people in a bomb attack...

    why waste more $$ to hold him... set the man free.. to the other side of life!
    so he can answer to the 77 people waiting for him there.
     
  10. rootabaga

    rootabaga Well-Known Member
    663

    Aug 11, 2014
    2,438
    8,039
    663
    More or less IT, lots of hand-holding
    Crazyville, CA
    The bomb attack is one thing; he killed 8 people and perhaps as a distraction to his greater plan. Yes, that's bad enough.

    But what's worse...he then wore a police uniform to an island where he gunned down mostly kids, just picking them off as he went. Cold, calculated, callous, indifferent, unrepentant...as @LV426 notes, thinks what he did was a good thing.
     
  11. badcatz

    badcatz Well-Known Member
    88

    Nov 12, 2010
    228
    202
    88
    Male
    I think he forfited his human rights when he committed those heinous crimes. If ya can't do the time, don't do the crime!
     
    bcrichster likes this.
  12. Hadron

    Hadron VIP Member
    VIP Member
    2,118

    Aug 9, 2010
    18,411
    11,396
    2,118
    Spacecorp Test Pilot
    Dimension Jumping
    Norway is a civilised society, and so will treat him accordingly.

    Brevik is an asshole, and so behaves accordingly.

    Maybe, given enough time, he'll realise what he is. Maybe he won't. But his punishment is to be treated not as some political warrior but a common criminal, an asshole,... and an irrelevance. And that's what all the Hitler salute stuff is about, trying to be noticed and kid himself that he counts for something.
     
  13. Gmash

    Gmash Well-Known Member
    523

    Feb 3, 2011
    6,884
    3,164
    523
    Male
    neither Here nor There
    If it happened in America, the alt-right would claim the whole thing was a hoax...

    ...and it would be a heil Trump salute.
     
  14. Davdi

    Davdi Well-Known Member
    143

    Jul 4, 2012
    942
    265
    143
    Looking for a Job
    The Shire
    I don't agree with the death penalty, but in Brevik's case........
     
  15. bcrichster

    bcrichster Well-Known Member
    593

    Jan 23, 2013
    4,773
    3,225
    593
    Male
    Electrical, Electronics
    Florida
    The parents of those children should BE the firing squad.
     
  16. LV426

    LV426 Well-Known Member
    VIP Member
    528

    Oct 16, 2015
    3,086
    3,947
    528
    Male
    Software developer
    UK
    Now that's justice.
     
    bcrichster likes this.

Share This Page

Loading...