Help Sim Card Questions

[DroidL]

I have seen in one ad where it mentioned a 4G sim card as a requirement.

This left me wondering, doesn't the phone come with a Sim Card and if not where do I get one and will that be an additional cost?

What info gets saved on the sim card?

So lets say BB calls up and I am ready to go get my T-bolt will they be giving me a sim card with it? Or Selling me one?

 

[gvillager]

I have seen in one ad where it mentioned a 4G sim card as a requirement.

This left me wondering, doesn't the phone come with a Sim Card and if not where do I get one and will that be an additional cost?

The sim card will come with the phone at no additional cost.

I don't know the answers to your other questions, sorry.

 

[TxGoat]

If the 4G sim card is anything like their 3G Global sim card, it's not going to be like AT&T's Sim card where it stores address/contact information. Of course this being new tech, you'll have to wait to see. I can't imagine Verizon following AT&T's lead and storing contact information on the Sim. It just probably tells the 4G towers whether or not your phone is provisioned for 4G.

 

[milan03]

If the 4G sim card is anything like their 3G Global sim card, it's not going to be like AT&T's Sim card where it stores address/contact information. Of course this being new tech, you'll have to wait to see. I can't imagine Verizon following AT&T's lead and storing contact information on the Sim. It just probably tells the 4G towers whether or not your phone is provisioned for 4G.

Actually Verizon LTE will be using a little bit different SIM cards from the current 3G SIM. They will be UICC SIM cards.

Here is an excerpt, credit goes to willzzz:

The SIM card is required for ALL 4G devices even when in CDMA only mode. See this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Removab...dentity_Module

VZ is adopting SIM-technology for all 4G and beyond future releases for ease of use because you can switch your account profile from phone to phone as long as it's a VZW 4G device and it will seamlessly work. No more calling support, you just swap the SIM card. No more *228 except for PRL updates but that in theory should be done automatically too in the future.

If you really want to know what's in the Thunderbolt here you go:
UICC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDMA_Su...dentify_Module

The Verizon 4G LTE SIM cards have 3 components in them (3 modules that are transparent to the end-user):
1. CSIM: Authentication to the CDMA 1X voice/data and CDMA EvDO rA data 3G network.
2. USIM/ISIM/USAT/ISIM: USIM is used for LTE/GSM/UMTS/HSPA data authentication. The last 3 are for roaming.

1. USIM is also used for native direct Verizon SIM card roaming when abroad (outside of the US) as long as the device hardware has the processing (baseband) and antennas to have the overseas bands.
2. ISIM is used for IMS (IP Multimedia Subsystem) authentication. Basically in the future Verizon wants to do VoLTE and move voice into IP (VoIP). This allows for ALL-IP simplified network management. Also device management and stuff that makes the device automatically work when it connects to ANY network in the world /w VZW roaming agreement (aka SMS/MMS).
3. USAT: Application toolkit for the SIM card. If you're not a developer forget about it.
4. ISIM (Intelligent SIM): One of the functions/applications is remote modular address book movement. (Only up to 256K). So if your address book contains up to 256K you can move it onto the SIM card and move your address book seamlessly transparently to the end user between any VZW device. There are other functions that only the engineer would understand.

"The application has been ported to the UICC (Universal Integrated Circuit Card), so that a card with CSIM, SIM, and USIM can operate with all cellular networks worldwide."

 

[DroidL]

Thank you guys for clearing that up. I had noticed that the list of what's in the box did not include a sim card and it was listed in the what's required list.

 

[rushmore]

Thank you guys for clearing that up. I had noticed that the list of what's in the box did not include a sim card and it was listed in the what's required list.

So can we take the sim and put it in a Xoom (when updated) and it will work? That is one nice thing about Tmo- device hopping.

 

[milan03]

So can we take the sim and put it in a Xoom (when updated) and it will work? That is one nice thing about Tmo- device hopping.

Technically yes, but I haven't tested it or know anyone that did so I won't give you a definite answer.
In theory you could pop in the SIM in another vzw certified device that takes SIM (like Xoom) and it should work.

 

[StillgotanEris]

So can we take the sim and put it in a Xoom (when updated) and it will work? That is one nice thing about Tmo- device hopping.

That could be handy. I would guess that will allow some people to have two devices on one data plan. Although, I assume that Verizon can see that and crash your party.

 

[milan03]

That could be handy. I would guess that will allow some people to have two devices on one data plan. Although, I assume that Verizon can see that and crash your party.

Very possible.

 

[willdogs]

Hey All

I was just browsing through the Thunderbolt manual and saw this on the Sim Card Info Page

"The 4G SIM card provided to you by Verizon Wireless contains your phone number, service details, and phonebook/message memory. It enables you to make calls and access the Internet using a 4G LTE network. While you’re abroad, you could also connect to a CDMA network.
The Verizon Wireless 4G SIM card is compatible with any Verizon Wireless 4G certified device. You can move the 4G SIM card from one device to another and your wireless service will work seamlessly as long as you have a compatible device and service plan. To see which devices are compatible with the Verizon Wireless 4G SIM card, visit verizonwireless.com/certifieddevice.

Wondering if you own a Zoom, if you can move the SIM between devices?
Hmmm