[SOLVED] rooting IDER A10 box


Last Updated: 2013-02-17 19:44:41
  1. wolfgangpauli

    wolfgangpauli Member

    O.k., I think it is 99,9% safe to apply this method in order to get the device rooted. The 'hangs' at the 'A9' screen are rather to be attributed to a connected USB stick or to the USB-UART-bridge that seems to interfere a bit with a connected HDMI device.
    Since for the non-hacker all above-mentioned reasons for a 'hang' are irrelevant, this "rooting" method can be applied in a rather simple manner without opening the device.
    The "update" (as I anderstand it) just copies the programs 'superuser.apk' and 'su' to the corresponding locations within the operating system and sets the corresponding permissions.
    Besides the systematic 'hangs' already described I have not faced further odd behaviour after the rooting the device.

    Best regards,
    wolfgang_pauli

    PS: As soon as I have time I'll write up the information promised some posts earlier.
    PPS: By rooting your device you may lose the warranty. Furthermore you may brick your device and reduce system security. Be warned and root your device only if you know what your are doing!!

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  2. walteroa

    walteroa Well-Known Member

    Hola wolfgangpauli: Sos un maestro!!!
    I have a couple of questions...

    regarding your quote
  3. wolfgangpauli

    wolfgangpauli Member

    Since "rooting" is easy once you know how to do it, here is a small "guide 4 dummies":

    1) Take an SD card and format it FAT32 (I tried it with an 8GB SDHC card)

    2) copy this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4546860/update.root.yareg.march.2012.zip file to the SD card and rename it to update.zip (do not unzip, just change the file name). On M$-Windows rename it "update", the extension ".zip" should be preserved anyway, when changing the name of a ZIP-file.

    3) put the SD card into the switched-off android device

    4) press the "update button" at the bottom of the device and power the device while still holding the button

    5) When the display shows "Android system recovery <3e>" try to navigate with the up/down buttons of the remote control. The menu has 5 entries.

    6) Choose "apply update" with the "enter button" of the remote control. Enter into submenu "sdcard/" where you should now see the content of the SD card, i.e. the file "update.zip"

    7) Select the file "update.zip" and press "enter". This will install the update (= copy the superuser.apk and su files with corresponding permissions).

    8) Choose reboot. The device is now "rooted". Enjoy!

    PS: Be careful, never unplug the device from mains during a system update!
    PPS: Read all about the consequences of "rooting" an android device

    Best regards,
    wolfgang_pauli
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  4. nn316

    nn316 Member

    Hi wolfgangpauli,

    If one does the above root can you preserve and stay rooted in anyway because there is now a beta 4.0 sandwich upgrade available from sumvision for cyclone nano slim.
  5. wolfgangpauli

    wolfgangpauli Member

    mm316,
    The sumvision cyclone nano slim differs from the box described in thread.
    I'd need more information about your box in order to recommend or advice you.
    Since the problem you describe here is a completely new one not related to the "ider a10", pls. open a new thread.
    Maybe you could title it "Rooting the Sumvision cyclo nano slim". As soon as the new thread exists, pls. let us know. Start the thread with as much information as you can get about your box. pictures, system info, webpage links to the firmware etc.

    Best regards,
    wolfgang_pauli
  6. tapottolo

    tapottolo Active Member

    Only one question:

    somenone has done the rooting procedure successfully?

    Any brick risk?
    All is ok?

    Thanks a lot.
    Bye
  7. leodfs

    leodfs Member

    Couldn't get the update do boot in recovery, it only stand on A9 logo. You said something about boot using tftboot of uboot, can this be done on this way? Could it be done thought tftpboot?

    EDIT : I did it. The catch was that uImage_recovery , must be in the sdcard or youll get stuck on A9 logo. Cant post link of the firmware, but the file name is ku7YucGFydDEucmFy=.rar. you dont even need the cf03ref-eng.zip inside it, only the uimage_recovery to root.
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  8. wolfgangpauli

    wolfgangpauli Member

    You are completely right. I noticed this recently.
    Yes, put uImage_recovery onto the SD card, and press the recovery button when powering up. This will get you to the Android recovery.

    I tried to store uImage_recovery somewhere in the boxes memory, but now that I know how to enter recovery I will not try further. There is some risk to overwrite something that afterwards does not work any more.

    Have you rooted your box already?
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  9. walteroa

    walteroa Well-Known Member

    Well, in fact i haven't had enought time. I hope i can start next week. Cheers!!
  10. leodfs

    leodfs Member

    My unity is rooted. Running samba file sharing app. How cool is that?

    A bit off topic, but that was the main reason for me to root: get bluetooth dongle working. But cant even find the btusb.ko and bluetooth.ko modules for our kernel, to begin with. Any tips on that?
    And thanks one more time.
  11. wolfgangpauli

    wolfgangpauli Member

    My box is temporarily out of order. I try to get all switches outside in order not to have to fiddle with toothpicks.

    @leodfs: Would you, pls., confirm that the rooting method that I described above was successful for you or did you do something completely different in order to the the box "rooted".
    I think this would be helpful for others.

    Cheers,
    wolfgang_pauli

    PS: Bluetooth -> unplug the usb-transceiver of the wireless keyboard, plug the Bluetooth dongle in, then reattach the usb-transceiver of the keyboard. I remember some issue on this...... and keep me informed, pls., if this was successful 4 you.
  12. leodfs

    leodfs Member

    Sure thing dude, I will just copy and paste everything you posted and add one thing on 2.1:



    1) Take an SD card and format it FAT32 (I tried it with an 8GB SDHC card)

    2) copy this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4546860/update.root.yareg.march.2012.zip file to the SD card and rename it to update.zip (do not unzip, just change the file name). On M$-Windows rename it "update", the extension ".zip" should be preserved anyway, when changing the name of a ZIP-file.

    2.1 Download this file and put on root of your sdcard: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vvllelkeryvu009/uImage_recovery . (If you got stuck on A9 logo, is because you don't have it, if you can't move the options on recovery with remote, it is not the right uImage_recovery. This happenend when I used the Sumvision Cyclone one. The one that worked was the one I found on the chinese official szider ider a10 page with date 2012-3-9. I did the upgrade, by the way, and the root worked as well. the only thing a notice on this update was the option Account and Sync on Settings)

    3) put the SD card into the switched-off android device

    4) press the "update button" at the bottom of the device and power the device while still holding the button

    5) When the display shows "Android system recovery <3e>" try to navigate with the up/down buttons of the remote control. The menu has 5 entries.

    6) Choose "apply update" with the "enter button" of the remote control. Enter into submenu "sdcard/" where you should now see the content of the SD card, i.e. the file "update.zip"

    7) Select the file "update.zip" and press "enter". This will install the update (= copy the superuser.apk and su files with corresponding permissions).

    8) Choose reboot. The device is now "rooted". Enjoy!

    You got BT working? You raised my hopes, but the official firmware don't even have BT options on settings.
  13. tapottolo

    tapottolo Active Member

    Someone can post the links of downloadable files from vhinese site of ider a10?

    The english site is not updated and i'm italian with no possibility to surf chinese site...

    Newest firmware link?
    Newest uimage recovery image file link?
    Any other lin for download or manual or document?

    I still have problem with the market that shows few apps.
    I have erased cache and data fo market... flashed a new firmware (updated 11 january 2012) but i have wifi issue (wifi error when i switch on). So i downgrade to the original firmware of 25 november 2011).

    Now i don't have newest files for chinese problem :banghead:

    Thans a lot.
    Bye.

    P.s. my device is rooted and fully funcionally...
  14. leodfs

    leodfs Member

    You just go to English site, memorize the position of the Download button, on the Chinese site, the position is the same. You will have two different download for our model, one bellow another. Is in fact a multivolume rar. You have to download both to extract.
  15. tapottolo

    tapottolo Active Member

    I have done without success... Can you paste the links here or send me a pm? Thanks a lot.
  16. leodfs

    leodfs Member

    Sent a pm
  17. wolfgangpauli

    wolfgangpauli Member

    @tapottolo : Mettiamoci d' accordo di non fare segreti qui. Quali sono i link della nuova firmware. grazie ;-)
    : Let us agree not have secrets here. Pls., share the links with us to the new firmware.
    @walteroa : hoy no tengo mas la fuerza de escribir en castellano, saludos cordiales w.p.

    saluti cordiali da Austria,
    saludos cordiales desde Austria
    greeeeeetz from Austria

    wolfgang_pauli

    @leodfs: Where are u from?
  18. tapottolo

    tapottolo Active Member

    I have upgraded to new firmware 7 march 2012... After some apps restoring i reboot the box and the wifi gives error. I lose mac address and wifi doesn't work. I have to switch off the box and then reflash after wipe. Any idea ?
  19. tapottolo

    tapottolo Active Member

  20. bthoven

    bthoven Well-Known Member

    after rooting, anyone can get the latest Google Playstore on this box?

    Update 1 yes, I now have Google Play Store, but still can't find many popular apps, e.g. Facebook.
    What should I do?
  21. tapottolo

    tapottolo Active Member

    I have play store fully. Simply rooted with written procedure. My only problem is that if I switch off the box and then switch on quickly, the wifi doesn't work and give me error... I have to wait among five minutes to reboot... Anyone with this problem? Bye.
  22. leodfs

    leodfs Member

    True, this is a problem, I guess it is caused by how abruptly the process of turn off is made. It does not affect me much because I use Lan. When it happens could you please check the content and size of /system/etc/wpasupplicant.conf. I guess it is getting corrupted.
  23. bthoven

    bthoven Well-Known Member

    Great. Which firmware version you are using?

    Could you share download link of the firmware you are using?
    Can you also extract your build.prop and vending.apk from your box and shared with me? Thanks.
  24. tapottolo

    tapottolo Active Member

    ok leodfs i will try... should be a solution to copy the good version of wpasupplicant.conf and then when the box restart with wifi error paste the correct file on the corrupted?
    I have found that is possible to restart the wifi module with a number combination but our box doesn't have phone module...

    What do you think? I'm using the firmware of 7.03.2012 with the link

    www.szider.com/download/&FrontColumns_navigation01-nav_headerFirstColumnId=9db01851-f6df-4755-bd08-56ec5296ab91&comp_stats=comp-FrontColumns_navigation01-nav_header.html

    For non chinese users, you have to download two part from the link and then rename the file erasing the little cubes character in the file names otherwise zip will give you error corrupted files...

    When i come back to home i will share build.prop and vending.apk...

    this wifi problem is very bad and annoying... [​IMG]
  25. bthoven

    bthoven Well-Known Member

    Thanks...but the link is not working. Never mind, I got the 7 March firmware from the vendor. Not sure what are improvements on this version when comparing with the Jan version.

    Do you want me to get wpasupplicant.conf from my box?

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