Specs: HTC Incredible VS Samsung Galaxy S

[dvdivx]

The big problem with the Galaxy is nothing will take advantage of the GPU. Mobile programing is not like windows programing. If anything having a snapdragon would be the best choice for compatibility.

 

[SprintFun]

The Evo 4G will be a little better or comparable to the Incredible "spec wise", but will be on Sprint - just another option for discussion.

 

[dm33]

Isn't the Galaxy S supposed to cost $1000 unsubsidized? How much cheaper do you think it can get subsidized? $800? $750? That's still a lot more expensive than the Droid Incredible.

No. There's been no word of it being more expensive. The iPhone sets the top bar and Samsung isn't known for expensive phones. I'd be astonished if its more than $199 subsidized.

 

[QrafTee]

No. There's been no word of it being more expensive. The iPhone sets the top bar and Samsung isn't known for expensive phones. I'd be astonished if its more than $199 subsidized.

It's been rumored: Samsung Galaxy S Launching In June For $1,000+ | Android Phone Fans

 

[dvdivx]

Phone programming is not like windows programming. Having something like a GPU like the Samsung Galaxy means very few programs will take advantage of it until one to two years later when it's already obsolete. Skype would work on the EVO for instance because it's the same processor. The samsung probably not. I remember a few windows mobile phones having an Nvidia chip inside and only one game took advantage of it. Most developers are going to aim for as many customers as possible not a one off. The big change would be if intel brings a chip in capable of native x86 code.

 

[JRunSW20]

There's a Samsung rep that comes into our store every so often, but the whole deal with the Galaxy S is that, Samsung will be releasing the phone to ALL carriers at the same time. So when the marketing develops it won't have a VZW logo, T-MO, or AT&T logo in the commercial, just the phone. The phone is said to be launched Q3 this year.

 

[Adamx]

ps3 supposedly handles half the triangles of xbox 360, but the unbiased knows that overall graphics and performance are superior on a properly cell-utilizing ps3 game.

Like the above said, the graphics processor will make the phone a little faster, how that translates into regular 2D applications is questionable. If the phone is within 100 dollars of the incredible, then I think it's worth it. More than that and probably not. Also, unless it comes with an interface that is actually easy to 3D game on (like real buttons and a joystick), then I don't understand what it will do for me.

 

[seoultrain]

There's a Samsung rep that comes into our store every so often, but the whole deal with the Galaxy S is that, Samsung will be releasing the phone to ALL carriers at the same time. So when the marketing develops it won't have a VZW logo, T-MO, or AT&T logo in the commercial, just the phone. The phone is said to be launched Q3 this year.

This.

They want to release the phone for all 4 major carriers. Whether they can actually do so remains to be seen, as well as whether Samsung can finally release a good smartphone. On paper, this is a better phone for most than even the Sprint-only EVO 4G.

That said, I'm not waiting, nor do I feel it offers enough perks for me to upgrade my Incredible half a year from now.

 

[dm33]

Phone programming is not like windows programming. Having something like a GPU like the Samsung Galaxy means very few programs will take advantage of it until one to two years later when it's already obsolete. Skype would work on the EVO for instance because it's the same processor. The samsung probably not. I remember a few windows mobile phones having an Nvidia chip inside and only one game took advantage of it. Most developers are going to aim for as many customers as possible not a one off. The big change would be if intel brings a chip in capable of native x86 code.

Wow. I didn't realize that Android prospective owners have such low expectations of their phones. Ever use an iPhone? There are TONS of apps, mostly games which make very heavy use of the GPU. As Android phone become capable, the iPhone apps will be ported to Android and perform better on phones with powerful GPUs.

 

[EliC]

Hopefully the Galaxy S will come to verizon as the latest rumor indicates and hopefully before Q3. I am waiting for my upgrade, eligible now, but was waiting for incredible. Now that the S may make it to verizon, I would prefer to have that, especially a pro version. I really want a hardware qwerty, but hate the keyboard on the droid.

 

[vaxick]

I'm not a fan of Samsung phones personally. I've owned a few and they have always had a less than stellar radio in them. I'm actually using a Samsung phone right now and it has been a awful experience. It drops calls and overall gets a very poor signal.

Even the Omnia was a bit below average for signal quality. It has always been a huge weakness in Samsung phones besides their whole lack of software support.

 

[QrafTee]

Wow. I didn't realize that Android prospective owners have such low expectations of their phones. Ever use an iPhone? There are TONS of apps, mostly games which make very heavy use of the GPU. As Android phone become capable, the iPhone apps will be ported to Android and perform better on phones with powerful GPUs.

Apple's latest restriction to require all apps to be written in objective C makes it harder for developers to dual develop apps on both platforms simultaneously.

I'd still like NewToy Inc to port their games to Android.

 

[hornyhippo]

I would get a samsung galaxy s than the incredible if my contract was up on Fall, because that's the time verizon might release it. My contract was up few months ago so who the heck wants to wait near the end of the year. By that time htc scorpion and better phones will start to leak.

 

[dm33]

Apple's latest restriction to require all apps to be written in objective C makes it harder for developers to dual develop apps on both platforms simultaneously.

I'd still like NewToy Inc to port their games to Android.

Apple changed the terms to force objective-C, C or C++. Most games are written in C or C++ with graphics code in Open GL.

Google recently added support for Open GL through their NDK which allows you to write in C or C++.

This will make most of the guts of games easier to port to Android.
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[Eazail70x7]

Lets sweeten the pot, HTC Incredible vs. Galaxy S PRO!

Samsung already working on a Galaxy S Pro, complete with physical keyboard?

 

[dm33]

Lets sweeten the pot, HTC Incredible vs. Galaxy S PRO!

Samsung already working on a Galaxy S Pro, complete with physical keyboard?

If you're into that physical keyboard kind of thing.
If soft keyboard are done well enough (iPhone), you don't have to deal with the extra weight, size, slowness and inflexibility of a physical keyboard.

 

[Eazail70x7]

Oh yes i am into the physical keyboard thing for sure!

 

[czm2000]

Galaxy s will not be coming to Verizon. It is a GSM device.

You can't say for sure it won't be coming to Verizon. They could release a CDMA version. There's actually already rumors that before the year is over it may be on all 4 major US carriers.

 

[LightofHonor]

Isn't the Galaxy S supposed to cost $1000 unsubsidized? How much cheaper do you think it can get subsidized? $800? $750? That's still a lot more expensive than the Droid Incredible.

And when YOU are the manufacturer for the screen... and the processor.... and pretty much everything else too, prices can be whatever you want really. It'll probably cost $3-400 to make, sell at $600, and then come in at $199 on contract just like everything else lol

 

[QrafTee]

And when YOU are the manufacturer for the screen... and the processor.... and pretty much everything else too, prices can be whatever you want really. It'll probably cost $3-400 to make, sell at $600, and then come in at $199 on contract just like everything else lol

That doesn't change the fact that it will be at the price the manufacturer is selling it for.

 

[dm33]

That doesn't change the fact that it will be at the price the manufacturer is selling it for.

There is no way the Galaxy S will list for more than $199 w 2yr commitment. Its silly to think otherwise. There is no precedent. Its not much different from other phones already available. Samsung is considered an inexpensive brand. The iPhone will be more capable in most respects and will be $199 or less. You are referencing an unsubsidized price in Russia. Not a close comparison. The iPhone 3GS sells for 35,500 rupees in India which is $800 US. Yet it sells here for $199.

 

[Vtsdan]

You know, there's something that I didn't see anyone mention (though I was only scanning most of it) is that SenseUI REALLY changes the way you use an HTC phone. Samsung, while their specs sound great, often RUIN phones with crappy UI. Look at the Omnia 2. If you disable the silly TouchWiz, the phone was actually fairly decent. Load up one of the other UI's built for Windows Mobile and the thing sped along pretty well. Whenever you had TouchWiz loaded, however, the phone is A SLOW, LAGGY DOORSTOP. If the Galaxy is loaded with Sangun's UI components, and like Sense is much harder to completely disable than a skin on WM... then no matter how quick it SHOULD be because of the specs, it might chug along no faster than an Eris running 2.1 and playing Flash content.

 

[Eazail70x7]

It will be using Touch Wiz 3.0. I think this one will be much more efficient than the old one. And I didn't see that ugly block either lol

 

[sylent101]

I dont know i just dont respect samsung..lol i dont know why but i see samsung as the fat kid u dont want on ur team at gym and htc and motorola are the captains..i dont think i will ever respect them i dont care what phone they release

 

[dm33]

You know, there's something that I didn't see anyone mention (though I was only scanning most of it) is that SenseUI REALLY changes the way you use an HTC phone. Samsung, while their specs sound great, often RUIN phones with crappy UI. Look at the Omnia 2. If you disable the silly TouchWiz, the phone was actually fairly decent. Load up one of the other UI's built for Windows Mobile and the thing sped along pretty well. Whenever you had TouchWiz loaded, however, the phone is A SLOW, LAGGY DOORSTOP. If the Galaxy is loaded with Sangun's UI components, and like Sense is much harder to completely disable than a skin on WM... then no matter how quick it SHOULD be because of the specs, it might chug along no faster than an Eris running 2.1 and playing Flash content.

The Galaxy S UI looks amazingly bad. They need to hire someone with basic UI design skills. Stock Android looks much better.