I started a new thread for my continuing adventures and to keep the other thread on topic, sort of. lol ovrrdrive asked if it felt good that I had gone ahead and rooted, I answered in the affirmative, and things progressed from there! Yes indeed! One note, that Quickboot app that I have used forever. I had it take me to the bootloader. I could not get out of it without pulling the battery. That was a pain in this otterbox. The plastic shell does not want to come apart! Saw something somewhere that on some phone without a custom recovery when they used that app to go to the stock recovery, it just went ahead and did a factory reset. Lol. It works fine to just reboot and shut down though, which I like. 1 button shutdown save wear and tear on hardware button. Edit: I am going to break out some of the non 1 click root stuff, starting here and moving it to the My Bootloop thread.