they arnt actually running. there sitting in memory que which can be freed up at any time by the os itself thats the problem with task killers is there not needed
OK. I'm an Evo owner, fully rooted.
That stuff that loads up in the background and gets well-managed anyway?
Yes, true on my old Moment.
The Evo - different story.
The Android resource manager is said, in some forums, to not be terribly effective with the higher speed phones, and my experience confirms that.
Pulling up nothing more than SystemPanelLite, I've watched those harmless apps wake up, spike CPU speed (yeah - the Snapdragon is a variable speed CPU, so when it has more to do, it runs faster (woot! gives appearance of nothing in the background costing you anything)) but that means it's drawing more power. Oh - that larger memory - yeah, let's leave all the bloat hanging around in there. And how about some of them *seem* to want to phone home any chance they get?
Without Automatic Task Cleaner Pro (don't use ATK)(*) and Startup Cleaner 2.0, my memory consumption was something over 70% at full startup, 90% by the end of a half day. After those, at bootup, memory consumption was just over 50%, and would rise up to 70%.
And at that point, my battery life improved greatly.
Rooted, with the bloat removed, I don't worry about any of that - and performance is great.
And because I like to be conservative, I do thing in stages.
I'm running the stock unrooted ROM, same look and feel as before. Maybe I'll go to Fresh, maybe I'll try something else. I can take my time now.
Here are the foolproof instructions I followed (with links for stock rom or Fresh):
[TUTORIAL] IDIOT-PROOF Root Guide! NAND Unlock and ADB Update!! - xda-developers
Two caveats:
1. After this, you'll be at rev xxx.1 - and your phone may want to try an OTA update to xxx.6 - don't do that. Instead, go to post 202 on page 11 or 12 and follow the instructions for the download/update to that.
2. If you go with the stock rom, they don't tell you that you can use Titanium Backup to also backup your desktop - and if you have 7 spaces worth of customizations to your look and feel, you want that. Do it right after your user app backup instruction (do not back up all apps - just user, btw). Instructions here:
Possible to backup yout HTC Sense "Scene" - xda-developers
Now - much of the info I've pointed at will point at the sites already referenced here. So, I'm not disputing the other advice. I'm simply suggesting that the Idiot's Guide is the one that worked for me.
Be patient. Follow instructions to the exact letter. You will succeed.
While I'm on about battery life, here is EarlyMon's condensed simple list of things to do about that:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g...ow-what-causing-battery-drain.html#post993457
(*) Footnote - the reasons that I support ATCPro, not ATK -
1. No funny stuff, things force closing, when using ATCPro
2. Uses way less battery than ATK - can be set to simply kill apps when screen sleeps - less agressive than ATK that way.
3. Gentler, more conservative, but very effective in my experience. Here's my thread on that with a bit of advice on apps to assassinate - and actually consider just removing when rooted:
http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/102336-real-app-startup-control.html
I am not Mr. Android Expert, nor as experienced as others - but this is what worked for me, firsthand idiot, successfully - nothing more.