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  1. saptech

    saptech Well-Known Member

    Yes, congrats Moody...

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  2. sfbloodbrother

    sfbloodbrother Well-Known Member

    Thats good, glade I was able to help.
  3. MoodyBlues

    MoodyBlues - Crazy peacock person -

    I was getting weird results, like the numbers incrementing like this:



    I'll give it another look tomorrow.

    I still call it vi, and it's been my good friend since 1985! :D

    Cool! :)

    That's sweet. Thank you.
  4. MoodyBlues

    MoodyBlues - Crazy peacock person -

  5. saptech

    saptech Well-Known Member

    One of, if not the oldest surviving distribution still around.

    Slackware Turns 20

    Linux may not be taking over the world but it's not going anywhere either! The key is to pick the right one for your purposes!
  6. sfbloodbrother

    sfbloodbrother Well-Known Member

    I should give this os a try... I never tried it before.
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  7. MoodyBlues

    MoodyBlues - Crazy peacock person -

    Slackware has a bad reputation for being very user UNfriendly, but don't let that sway you. As with everything else, some people find things easy and others don't. No one knows how their experience with Slackware [or anything else] will go unless they try it.
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  8. Dngrsone

    Dngrsone Well-Known Member

    I learned a lot about Linux just installing Slackware... of course, that was a few versions ago. :rolleyes:

    I have since gotten lazy and all but abandoned the CLI. :(
  9. MoodyBlues

    MoodyBlues - Crazy peacock person -

    Yep, Slackware definitely comes in handy when it comes to learning about Linux. :D

    Me, too...sort of. I love my beautiful GUIs, I love my desktop cube with its separate faces for each desktop, I love all the whiz-bang visual effects. But, when it comes to getting things done fast and efficiently? I'm always at a prompt. There's just no comparison.
  10. saptech

    saptech Well-Known Member

    Same here. I used to love tinkering with linux but as time went on, I started using more GUI friendly distros.

    My current distros are Mageia Linux, forked from Mandriva/Mandrake and also a more friendly Slackware version, SalixOS. If anyone is thinking about Slackware but afraid it may be hard to install/use, give Salix a try.
  11. 9to5cynic

    9to5cynic Well-Known Member

    I'm kinda in the same boat. I use distros with easy guis, but for the most part, I'm just on one terminal full screen with multiple tabs open.

    Though, I do use a few gui applications quite regularly, mostly firefox, pdf viewer, and wireshark.

    One of these days, I'm gonna get a new computer and be able to get a great linux setup going. I want to dive into arch again.
  12. sfbloodbrother

    sfbloodbrother Well-Known Member

    Nice. I don't think I can get far without a GUI.
  13. MoodyBlues

    MoodyBlues - Crazy peacock person -

    The other day I was looking for info on one thing, and--as so often happens online--ended up stumbling across something totally different, but very interesting. It's a command called dmidecode. If I ever knew about it, I guess I had forgotten, because it didn't even sound familiar.

    Here's the first bit of its man page:

    Code (Text):
    2. DMIDECODE(8)                                                                                                        
    4. NAME
    5.        dmidecode - DMI table decoder
    8.        dmidecode [OPTIONS]
    11.        dmidecode is a tool for dumping a computer's DMI (some say SMBIOS)
    12.        table contents in a human-readable format. This table contains a
    13.        description of the system's hardware components, as well as other
    14.        useful pieces of information such  as  serial  numbers  and  BIOS
    15.        revision. Thanks to this table, you can retrieve this information
    16.        without having to probe for the actual hardware.  While this is a
    17.        good point in terms of report speed and safeness, this also makes
    18.        the presented information possibly unreliable.
    20.        The DMI table doesn't only describe what the system is currently
    21.        made of, it also can report the possible evolutions (such  as  the
    22.        fastest supported CPU or the maximal amount of memory supported).
    24.        SMBIOS stands for System Management BIOS, while DMI stands for
    25.        Desktop Management Interface. Both standards are tightly related and
    26.        developed by the DMTF (Desktop Management Task Force).
    28.        As you run it, dmidecode will try to locate the DMI table. If it
    29.        succeeds, it will then parse this table  and  display  a  list  of
    30.        records like this one:
    32.        Handle 0x0002, DMI type 2, 8 bytes.  Base Board Information
    33.                Manufacturer: Intel
    34.                Product Name: C440GX+
    35.                Version: 727281-001
    36.                Serial Number: INCY92700942
    Note that it has to be run as root.

    It produces an AMAZING array of information about the computer it's run on.
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  14. Dngrsone

    Dngrsone Well-Known Member

    I'll have to check that out once I have a computer again...

    Speaking of, I just ordered a new laptop, and will have the"opportunity" to install Mint 15 on an UEFI machine.

    That also means I get to experience Windows 8 in all its magnificent glory. :rolleyes:
  15. palmtree5

    palmtree5 Sunny Vacation Supporter! Moderator

    Never even heard of it until just now :rolleyes:
  16. MoodyBlues

    MoodyBlues - Crazy peacock person -

    I think you'll be pleased. I was. I just don't know why I'd never heard of it before. :confused:

    Will you post a followup? I'd love to hear how your experience with UEFI goes.

    Right! :laugh:
  17. MoodyBlues

    MoodyBlues - Crazy peacock person -

    I know! Me too. Oh well...
  18. Joelgp83

    Joelgp83 Well-Known Member

    If it's anything like the UEFI'd HP laptop I recently got, you'll need to know a few things ahead of time.

    1.) ABSOLUTELY get the 64bit, UEFI-aware version of whatever Linux distro you want to install, if available. It massively cuts down on headaches.

    2.) The UEFI "OS Boot Manager" has complete tunnel vision for windows 8. Grub will NOT show up unless you explicitly hit whatever key is for "select boot device" on startup (F9 on mine), and select your UEFI distro entry -- EVERY TIME!

    3.) Some of them support Secure Boot out of the box, others don't, if your distro installs in UEFI mode and still won't boot after selecting it, it probably didn't support it. You'll have to turn it off in the BIOS.

    Hope this helps :)
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  19. palmtree5

    palmtree5 Sunny Vacation Supporter! Moderator

    Personally, I don't use Grub on my laptop, I use this. Detects installed operating systems and bootable external media with the ability to refresh if you plug something in while on the screen.
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  20. Dngrsone

    Dngrsone Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Joel. It will certainly be an adventure.

    That looks pretty interesting, palmtree... I may have to give that a try.
  21. MoodyBlues

    MoodyBlues - Crazy peacock person -

    Here's a ZDNet article describing one person's experience with that (KDE). It's pretty interesting, and includes this summary:

  22. palmtree5

    palmtree5 Sunny Vacation Supporter! Moderator

    For me, it was a matter of finding the option to disable Secure Boot (which wasn't particularly easy as it wasn't called that). Once I did that, I didn't have much difficulty
  23. Dngrsone

    Dngrsone Well-Known Member

    Well, this is a Toshiba laptop, so I will start by looking up UEFI on those, and see what I can see.

    Provided I can find time to breathe... Dngrswife has me pretty busy right now.
  24. zuben el genub

    zuben el genub Well-Known Member

    I finally got that dual boot of mine squared away. I upgraded to 12.04LST. Now how do I install a file? I happen to want FX and Thunderbird ESR. Those only get security installs. I use them on Windows. Trouble is, they are . I can extract, but can't install.

    Also, how do you get a different desktop? I don't care for unity. I liked the old menu with a list with titles, like internet, science, office, games. I had 10.10 set up, then went to Mint, and now I can't find the answers again.

    One good thing, this time on installing Ubuntu told me which command would do what.

    Upgrade, erase 11.04 and install 12.04. Erase everything including the drive with XP.
    That made sense. I know which HD is which by MFG. SDA1 tells me nothing,


    I did look up FX, and the answer was to let FX update normally. They didn't realize there was an ESR version.
  25. 9to5cynic

    9to5cynic Well-Known Member

    Should be able to extract the file with something like this:
    Code (Text):
    2. tar xfvj [I][/I]
    I *think* rights, but I didn't have a to try it on.

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