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  1. IHateMyTreo

    IHateMyTreo Well-Known Member

    Chief, I think it's time to move this thread to the Phones Forum (instead of hidden in the Lounge), so it can become "epic" (and you can become the next Steven58) - and get a free phone ;)

    Of course, you'll have to ban you-know-who sometime during the thread. :D

  2. The_Chief

    The_Chief Accept no imitations! Moderator


    #1- I have suggested exactly that: to make a thread for the Motorola X. However: until it is something beyond vaporware (ie, Google i/o announcement), there will not be a dedicated forum.

    #2- The phone thing was a one-shot deal and likely will never happen again. That was simply an epic end to an epic adventure.

    I wouldn't turn down a Moto X, though :p

    #3- Chief does NOT like swinging the ol' ban hammer. At all. I prefer to give folks lots of chances, warnings, infractions, etc. Let's hope it won't come to that. I think we can all be reasonable in our posts and stay within the Rules & Guidelines.


    EDIT: And Phandroid picks it up!

  3. IHateMyTreo

    IHateMyTreo Well-Known Member

    1. Seems pretty real, especially given the Google help wanted ad.

    2. I'll start a collection. ;)

    3. I think we all have learned and matured from the frenzy that was the GN Spec Thread. I hope :D
  4. AntimonyER

    AntimonyER AF Addict VIP Member

    What induced the Galaxy Nexus to get a forum? I remember it was well into the thousands before it was made official...
  5. IHateMyTreo

    IHateMyTreo Well-Known Member

    I don't know what triggered the GN Speculation Thread to become "official" but when I started the RAZR HD Speculation Thread, it was approved by Early and Phases after the phone showed up in the Cellbrite system. In this case it will probably take an official announcement from Google, although still seems more reality than not to me.
  6. UBRocked

    UBRocked VZW Nexus Please!!! VIP Member

    I see your point but I don't know that even Google cares about the bootloader being unlockable. The GNex is unlockable for the developers...not for actual end users. It is a benefit that many of us enjoy but it's not the purpose behind it.

    The only thing I don't understand is why Verizon cares if the bootloader can be unlocked or not. I don't see how it hurts Verizon. My money is on this whole $15 (one time fee or monthly fee) being a crazy rumor and nothing more.
  7. jhawkkw

    jhawkkw Chinchillin' Moderator

    Verizon clings to two notions for their defense against unlockable bootloaders.

    First is that it allows users to run custom software that may break devices (such as kernels overclocked so high that the fry the phone, the usb fast charge feature found in many roms that has the potential to melt the charging port, etc). So this results in them having to take on added cost to replace these devices.

    Second is that they like to keep everyone on roughly the same build so that customer service can more easily troubleshoot and/or assist users.

    My rebuttal to all of this is that for the first notion, that user is not entitled to a new device because they took on the inherited risk of doing so. For the second notion, is that most users who run custom roms tend to know more about their device than the CS reps, rendering this point moot.
  8. UBRocked

    UBRocked VZW Nexus Please!!! VIP Member

    The manufacturers should be responsible for replacement hardware which would limit Verizon's cost to only the time needed to process return paperwork and shipping (although knowing VZW...that probably gets charged back to the manufacturer as well).

    But people still call customer service for help with their phones? I thought they all came here :D

    Yeah...I wonder how many people call VZW with a problem saying "well, I did try a different kernel and that didn't solve my issue either" LOL!

    That is VZW posturing but I wonder what their "real" problem with it is :)
  9. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven -.. --- - / -.. .- ... .... Moderator

    Before ICS you could say cash from bloatware vendors. I can't think of anything now but pure ignorance.
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  10. Hadron

    Hadron Well-Known Member Contributor

    Corporate cultures don't change easily...
  11. UBRocked

    UBRocked VZW Nexus Please!!! VIP Member

    I understood when people were getting free tethering but all the new plans have that. And...I don't think you need to replace the kernel for that...just root is needed I think.
  12. Digital Controller

    Digital Controller The Real Bass Creator Guide

    God 15$/m for unlocked bootloader....Big Red what are you doing!??!

    Well I really hope that doesn't happen or I might be switching carriers :(
  13. Adauth

    Adauth Well-Known Member

    Correct. I have a rooted razr and can tether all day, no problems. No fee. All u need is root.
  14. finndo77

    finndo77 Well-Known Member

    My guess is that one of the game changing features will be the reintegration with the Linux kernel, which is due. Possibly adding full digital calling...
  15. Digital Controller

    Digital Controller The Real Bass Creator Guide

    Yeah this is correct.

    Typically though, like Verizon doesn't offer tethering for free on stock, you need to go get a plan upgrade.
  16. The_Chief

    The_Chief Accept no imitations! Moderator

  17. Fred G. Vader

    Fred G. Vader Well-Known Member

    Someone remarked to me recently that the xPhone is going to run Key Lime Pie but I don't think so. I was just thinking back to the leaked job posting for the X Phone project manager. The very first sentence in that job posting said "Next Generation SmartPhone Platform".

    The xPhone is a phone not a platform. Android is a platform. KLP would be just the next incremental version of the Android paltform. So what is the "Next Generation SmartPhone Platform"?

    I think the xPhone is going to run Chrome OS. Remember the chromed out android mascot that google recently affixed to building 45 (where I believe chrome os development occurs)? I think that was a subtle hint at this "next generation platform".

    Android apps will be compatible and able to run under chrome os so they instantly have an app store. And think about it there haven't been any rumors or leaks or anything concerning KLP. I think that's because its all about Chrome OS going forward.

    The comments we have heard are that the xPhone is going to be a game changer! That it will have awesome features not available to samsung or any other vendor. That it will tie in google products in ways no other vendor can. Why? Cause it will be running Chrome OS. What do you guys think?
  18. Adauth

    Adauth Well-Known Member

    Nah no chrome os. If even half the rumors/leaks are true this is going to be a monster of a phone. This is basically Googles device. They are going to want to show off. They aren't going to release a mediocre device. Everyone is going to want to see what Google can do with no interference from a manufacturer. This is going to be all Google and I don't see them releasing anything but a knockout.
  19. Namrak

    Namrak Well-Known Member

  20. The_Chief

    The_Chief Accept no imitations! Moderator

    As long as the bootloader is unlocked/unlockable and it's rootable, I really couldn't care less what OS it ships with: I can CHANGE it :D

    Besides, there will be a VAST difference between Verizon's watered-down version of Key Lime Pie and a custom ROM like KLP Sourcery. I'd rather have the custom ROM any day.
  21. Liamo_210

    Liamo_210 Well-Known Member

    Since its basically a Google device a really hope its full stock. Not even moto blur lite. Just hope theres some good surprises involved and that if it does have key lime pie is prefer that its not a huge overhaul of JB.
  22. The_Chief

    The_Chief Accept no imitations! Moderator

  23. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven -.. --- - / -.. .- ... .... Moderator

    Pup's replacement phone.;)
  24. The_Chief

    The_Chief Accept no imitations! Moderator

  25. Hadron

    Hadron Well-Known Member Contributor

    I think that conflicting rumours just confirm that the blogosphere doesn't have a lot of hard fact.
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