The Ultimate Battle!

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  1. SamuraiBigEd

    SamuraiBigEd Under paid Sasquatch! Moderator

    Because of the joking between Voided Saint, Yeahha and myself I am creating this thread. I enjoy ribbing them on the Samurai v. Ninja subject so please post your Ultimate Battle scenarios for discussion, real or fictional characters, it is all fair game here. While we should keep it fictional vs. fictional or real vs. real if you have a good match up that mixes the two then feel free, everyone can comment and say what their outcome would be and why.

    I'll start if off with Ryu Hayabusa (a VS favorite) vs. Goku or Gohan

    Have fun!

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  2. Yeahha

    Yeahha Usually off topic VIP Member

    Depends on what part of the Dragon Ball series you are talking about. Demon or not if someone destroys the planet you are on survival is difficult:)
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  3. SamuraiBigEd

    SamuraiBigEd Under paid Sasquatch! Moderator

    Let's say mid Nemek time frame, right after Goku arrives for him and right after the time room training for Gohan.
  4. Yeahha

    Yeahha Usually off topic VIP Member

    He isn't even able to go super saiyin at that point, given he does have access to the spirit bomb but that takes so long for him to prepare he would be no contest.
  5. Frisco

    Frisco =Luceat Lux Vestra= VIP Member

    Thanks for getting this out of Guides Central. It's been wicked bloody macabre and, stuff in there.

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  6. VoidedSaint

    VoidedSaint Resident Ninja VIP Member

    goku would easily win any of these fights against ryu, because goku is an alien, and his skin cannot be pierced by mortal weapons (we saw gohan is super saiyan mode catch bullets) so in such at this point in the manga, goku can easily defeat him, however!
    before the saiyans arrive, goku would be out matched by ryu as his skill wasnt fully developed, and the writers didnt know if he was going to be the main character or not in the series, thus ryu is regardless much, much, much smarter than goku in any way, but goku has speed, strength, and ki blasts that can destroy planets. ryu is outmatched :(

    Broly vs Goku = Broly
    Broly vs Goku + Gohan = Broly
    Broly vs Goku + Gohan + Goten = SHOULD BE BROLY, but its the family

    Broly was only defeated because goku relied on the powers from everyone to punch a gash in broly's chest, broly was then defeated by all of them, not even ssj2 gohan could defeat broly. as broly was too powerful, and fast.

    here is a good match

    Scorpion vs Ryu Hayabusa

    i pull for ryu obviously, because scorpion is a demon/undead ninja, fights one on one, has speed and strength, and something others dont have... he is already dead, he has the power of the dead at his hands, can throw a spear from his hand, and spit fire, can sense movement before its made, and teleport at will.

    ryu is a demon/human hybrid, as his blood is that of the fiends, he fights waves, upon waves of demons equal, or greater than him. His speed is far greater than that of a normal human, and his senses are so accute that he can sense the slightest muscle movement of someone as they are making it, and can predict where they will be, he is a martial arts master, and an expert in any weapon he handles, a tactile genius as well.

    each of these figures have won a tournament

    in the series it is said scorpion has won a tournament once, but i cannot find out where

    ryu hayabusa won the 2nd tournament in DOA

    i still put this in favor of ryu, as his battle skills are much more advanced than scorpion
  7. VoidedSaint

    VoidedSaint Resident Ninja VIP Member

    i dont believe this as his alien skin is far stronger than that of any steel in our planet, so ryu wouldnt be able to defeat him by a blade, (but i could be wrong, as the dragon sword is made from the tooth of a dragon)
  8. SamuraiBigEd

    SamuraiBigEd Under paid Sasquatch! Moderator

    No but he is pretty close to it and is still extremely powerful. He is able at that point to destroy mountains, that's pretty impressive if you ask me.

    Gohan after time room training would be my choice, super saiyan and able to hold the form casually. No match there.

    The only Broly episode I have seen is the one where he comes back from the dead so I can't chime in here other than to say you may be right.

    I'll admit I am not up on Scorpion and Ryu, just what I have gleaned from you guys so I will stay out of that one.
  9. dan330

    dan330 Well-Known Member

    Who would win.. Batman vs spiderman?
  10. SamuraiBigEd

    SamuraiBigEd Under paid Sasquatch! Moderator

    I would have to go Spiderman, Batman does not have superhuman strength, just a very skilled fighter and all his toys.
  11. SamuraiBigEd

    SamuraiBigEd Under paid Sasquatch! Moderator

    Original Terminator VS. Robocop?
  12. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon Moderator

    Sanjuro, Batman, Robocop.

    Tools sharpened by talent can defeat all comers.
  13. Frisco

    Frisco =Luceat Lux Vestra= VIP Member

    But Batman also has his


    Boy Wonder!

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  14. VoidedSaint

    VoidedSaint Resident Ninja VIP Member

    im a spiderman fan, but you must specify which spiderman, and just remember two different universes, only one person has ever broken batman, and that is Bane, batman is in peak physical condition that a human can achieve, i just believe he would win in this fight, even though when the worlds crossed, i do believe it was spiderman vs superboy, superboy got smacked around.

    batman vs black suit spidey = spidey all day long

    robocop is a natural, but terminator, is unstoppable
  15. SamuraiBigEd

    SamuraiBigEd Under paid Sasquatch! Moderator

    Frisco VS. Early Mon?:p;):D

    Disclaimer: This is meant in no way to infer any animosity between these two sterling characters, quite the contrary they are an awesome team who lead us by example and deserve the utmost respect. Given a contest of Guide/Mod skills this would be so evenly matched that it could actually border on the ridiculous wasting soooooo much time neither would ever be able to accomplish anything. Now if it did come to a battle of physical skills and prowess I wouldn't want to give the odds on that one, after all there might be some hip breaking in there! J/K Early and really, please put that dow... SMACK

    R.I.P. SamuraiBigEd:D
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  16. gallandof

    gallandof Well-Known Member

    voldemort vs gandalf the grey. (ignore the fact that only harry can kill vold, and that gandalf came back)

    i'd have to side with gandalf. his spells may not be as damaging but he is a much better tactician, voldemort relies too much on strength and is very spontaneous.
  17. dan330

    dan330 Well-Known Member

    Spiderman has powers.. Strength speed skills

    Batman has the toys.. And a very sharp mind.. And able to out think his opponent..

    Batman can not go head to head with spiderman
    But can corner spiderman into some trap..

    It would be a great matchup
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  18. gallandof

    gallandof Well-Known Member

    i see it the other way, i think spiderman wouldn't be able to go toe to toe with batman, the armor, trinkets, and physical shaped of bruce wayne would be superior to spiderman. but spiderman would be able to keep batman at bay to prevent any sort of attacks. (does his web ever run out? im not the best with super heroes.)
  19. Yeahha

    Yeahha Usually off topic VIP Member

    I almost posted this as well...haven't you seen them post the same thing in the same thread for 10+ posts each it would be a draw
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  20. SamuraiBigEd

    SamuraiBigEd Under paid Sasquatch! Moderator

    I agree this one would decidedly be a draw!

    As far as Spidy and the Big Bad Bat, don't forget Spidey has the strength to lift a car, at least the original concept of Spiderman in the comics.
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  21. Yeahha

    Yeahha Usually off topic VIP Member

    ^it's the safest answer at least ;)

    A group of 10 average samurai vs a group of 10 average ninja?
  22. SamuraiBigEd

    SamuraiBigEd Under paid Sasquatch! Moderator

    I would definitely say that is a tough one, Ninja were quite often disgraced Samurai or Ronin who could not find a master in the beginning then spun off in their own direction later. I lean towards the Samurai, they are the undisputed sword masters generally but it would depend heavily on the individual combatants and the weapons/skills involved.

    All masters would be awesome to watch, bring a chair and refreshments you'll be there a while!
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  23. Yeahha

    Yeahha Usually off topic VIP Member

    Just lacking a master or being disgraced doesn't mean they were not as good, perhaps they were just rude ;)
    Not talking about our resident ninja(s)

    Another one to ponder lich vs vampire
  24. SamuraiBigEd

    SamuraiBigEd Under paid Sasquatch! Moderator

    You are of course correct, many of them were very good but for whatever reason fell into disgrace or just couldn't find work (kind of like things are now).

    Oh no, present company definitely excluded!

    Vampire are too cool to even be in that match!
  25. Yeahha

    Yeahha Usually off topic VIP Member

    Undead are undead. I think a lich would be good opponent for a vampire. Lich seek out undeath and are generally powerful magic users prior to undeath. I don't believe most vampires seek out becoming undead but rather have it thrust upon them at a random point of their life.

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