To root or not to root


  1. SButler

    SButler Active Member

    I've been using this site for the better part of A year and a half to stay up to speed with everything android. It is really a great site. Having had many different devices in that time frame(moment, eris, evo, fascinate and now streak) I can definitely say this device leaves me wanting more! Don't get me wrong I love the streak but I hate the lag and the fact that it runs 1.6. So with that being said I have done a lot of different research on Rooting my device and want to know if there is anyone that has a rooted streak and if the performance is a lot better on it and what options are available for Rooting this device. Thank you for any help in advance.

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  2. jhotmann

    jhotmann Member

    rooting wont do much for you performance wise...you're better off making the switch to 2.2. Theres the QDL method, DJ Steves Roms, and many other methods you can search for and use. I personally followed these steps http://dellstreakunlock.com/guide-to-upgrading-and-downgrading-the-streak.html but instead of using the O2 2.1 update that they use I used the O2 2.2 (319) found here http://mobileupdate.dell.com/PackageProductionLocations/Streak_319_12792_21.pkg

    then if you want to root use super one click which can be found on xda.

    hope that helps
  3. Aidan Bell

    Aidan Bell Well-Known Member

    I concur. I updated my Streak to 2.2 recently (I'm with O2 in the UK) and I'm very happy with the much improved performance over 1.6. Furthermore my personal feeling is that Rooting can, if one is not careful, be like opening a Pandora's box of problems. Whenever I find something which requires my machine to be rooted, I ask myself if I really want to go through all that trouble and then I just let it go or find something alternative that does the same thing without the need for root
  4. stoney73

    stoney73 Well-Known Member


    Hi Aidan, I'vr had a hero(rooted and flashed many many roms to it) and now I have a streak, which I've rooted, and up nitl today, I used to have dj steves custom installed. Rooting doesnt do anything except open up possibilities. It just gives you more options.
    It all depends what you want to do with your phone. If you are happy as it is, then fine. but some of us like to tinker, and see if there is an improvement to be had.
  5. Aidan Bell

    Aidan Bell Well-Known Member

    Thanks. Yes, you've opened my eyes a little, to be honest. I think maybe I was being a bit too paranoid! Especially as I actually WOULD class myself as a "Tinkerer". I guess my concern is also that once you've rooted a phone you've invalidated any kind of manufactures warranty. But as you say, if it opens up possibilities then it's certainly something to think about. To that end, is there any chance you could list a few things that you find the Streak able to do rooted, that it couldn't otherwise?
    Cheers.
  6. stoney73

    stoney73 Well-Known Member

    well...for one thing, you can enable the hardware acceleration in the build prop. which gives better performance.
    titanium backup is a handy app when one is rooted.

    you can also:

    Move cache data to SD card
    Move installed applications to SD card

    Root allows you run as "superuser", effectively giving you total control over the OS. You can add/remove stuff from the device memory, change ROMS, recovery images, themes, backup installed apps.... A nice round-up of some useful reading can be found here

    Why Root - Android Wiki

    Hope it helps? for the average user, rooting doesnt change their lives or anything. it just gives more options.

    the problems come with flashing custom roms. thats when you have to be careful.
  7. Aidan Bell

    Aidan Bell Well-Known Member

    Many thanks for that Stoney73.
    Definately food for thought.
  8. nb_mitch

    nb_mitch Well-Known Member

    I just rooted, took about 20 minutes, not hard at all, very good instructions. I tried to root my SE X10 for a week and never made it :confused:
  9. nb_mitch

    nb_mitch Well-Known Member

    That sounds more like an App to me, but to change it universal might take something with root powers.

    Personally, I am ok with that, it is just annoying at midnight when it flips over :rolleyes:
  10. bigtoysrock

    bigtoysrock Well-Known Member

    I know its one more click but in call log if you click on it it will give better info on it.
  11. Aidan Bell

    Aidan Bell Well-Known Member

    I'm about to root my Streak! I want to run a Bluetooth keyboard and realise that the only way that I'm going to make that work properly is with a rooted device. But here's a final plea to anyone who can give advice: is rooting in any way risky, do I risk damaging my device? I've also heard about UN-rooting. Is that possible? If anybody would be prepared to write a short paragraph explaining exactly what rooting is and does, and what, if any, the potential risks are, I'm sure it would be useful to a lot of people.
  12. stevenlong

    stevenlong Well-Known Member

    Rooting your phone will not damage it.
    It is just as easy to un-root your phone as to root it. The applications that root your phone also can un-root it.

    Rooting your android device give you (the user) the choice of allowing programs to run with extra rights (e.g. root).
    With this extra rights programs can do many things that normal are prevented.
    Not limited to the following:
    Allows backup programs to backup internal memory and settings.
    Allows same backup programs to restore all this information.
    Allows to move all applications to a SD card (some work involved in this, and you need a SD card with speed).
    Allows you to change (edit) files located in internal storage, with that ability you can change some aspects of you phone. Only one I know of the top of my head is pixel density.
  13. Aidan Bell

    Aidan Bell Well-Known Member

    Many thanks Stephen.
    I feel more confident now. Off to root! :)
  14. Aidan Bell

    Aidan Bell Well-Known Member

    OK, well here's the thing. I've been trying very hard to root my phone but can't!
    It took quite a while to establish a link to the PC at all (O2 Streak running 2.2), but when eventually trying SuperOneClick v1.6.5.0 I can never get further than the following. Can anyone please offer any help?

    Starting ADB Server...
    * daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *
    * daemon started successfully *

    OK

    Waiting for device...

    OK

    Pushing psneuter...
    error: closed

    FAILED



    and "SuperOneClickv1.5.4" produces the following:



    Starting ADB Server...
    * daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *
    * daemon started successfully *

    OK

    Waiting for device...

    OK

    Pushing rageagainstthecage...
    error: closed

    FAILED
  15. nb_mitch

    nb_mitch Well-Known Member

    I found it very easy to root, I just can't get 2.2 updated. I followed the instructions here to root it, I had to hit the "root" button twice, but the second time was a charm.
  16. Aidan Bell

    Aidan Bell Well-Known Member

    Thanks nb_mitch. I'm glad it worked for you. Unfortunately the root instructions here are already too old for my device. They only go as far as v2.1, and I'm running 2.2.
    Can anyone point me in the direction of a 2.2 root?
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