US Federal Elections 2012


  1. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Well-Known Member

    I see.

    Well, maybe I should have mentioned unwavering support for Israel and a policy of insulting allies.

    Well, Libya has feck all security right now, but its parliament is a lot more secular than Gadaffi. As for Egypt, Morsi is keen to maintain peace with Israel and keep the US on side, but he also has to keep to public opinion, as he is the democratically elected President of Egypt, the most populous Arab state by far.
    Uhm.. no, I'm quite the interventionist. What could Obama have done differently? He's done nothing with regard to Israel/Palestine sure, but it seems he has done well with regard to the destruction of Earth.

    Well, I mean I get upset about living here sometimes myself, but our standard of living is a bit ahead of America in all fairness.

    Where are these welfare checks and how can I acquire them?!?
    Ireland isnt even in NATO lolololol etc.
  2. A.Nonymous

    A.Nonymous Well-Known Member

    Couple of things. First of all, sentiment in the US tends to run pretty strongly pro-Israel. A pro-Palestinian candidate is not likely to be elected. At the very least he is going to have a very hard time.

    Not sure where you get the stats about the standard of living being better in the UK. I guess it depends on how you measure it. The quality of life index I looked at recently had the US in the top 15 and the UK in the top 30. This was like a 5 yr old survey though. I seem to recall that the US has more cars per capita than any other nation in the world. It's not unusual here for people to own more cars than they have drivers, but I would wager that is not the same across the world. Our GDP per capita is higher than the UK. None of this should be very surprising though given that US workers work more hours than workers in the UK. It would make sense that they'd have more disposable income.
  3. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but nonetheless, not doing anything is a foreign policy blunder IMO.

    Thats not my country etc.

    U.N. HDI Index 2011 (Very basic, really)
    Norway 0.943 ()
    Australia 0.929 ()
    Netherlands 0.910 ()
    United States 0.910 ()
    New Zealand 0.908 ()
    Canada 0.908 ()
    Ireland 0.908 ()

    As you see Ireland is .002 below the US, and of course our GDP per capita (PPP) is $10,000 less. There is far less shootings, crime, etc, we have a stronger welfare state, friendlier people. Yada yada you get the picture.

    As for the Quality of Life index, well.... Quality-of-life Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    How union membership has grown - and shrunk | News | guardian.co.uk

    As one can see, Union membership is low (and needless to say, Brits dont go to church, Americans do).

    That basically knocks one point off the UK, while gifting 1 point to the US, remove that and the UK is higher.
  4. OutofDate1980

    OutofDate1980 Well-Known Member

    Believe KS is a safe state for Romney, even though Johnson is on the ballot.
  5. A.Nonymous

    A.Nonymous Well-Known Member

    The US doesn't have a high union membership though. I would lay odds the UK has far more union members per capita than the US does. Most US jobs are non-union. The US has higher church attendance though.
  6. Mr Wolfpack

    Mr Wolfpack Member

    Yeah. KS is a very safe state for Romney. Mr. Obama wins KS only if Mr. Romney says something like "I want to eat your children" at the debate. And if Mr. Obama wins KS, then he's probably had an election like Reagan '84.
  7. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Well-Known Member

    Yes, keyword is or.

    Would be nice to see my post addressed.
  8. OutofDate1980

    OutofDate1980 Well-Known Member

    Romney's foreign policy, shoot first, aim later, implements Chaney's hunting policy.

    Mitt Romney Response To Libya, Egypt Attacks Called 'Irresponsible,' 'Craven,' 'Ham-Handed'

    "The Romney campaign drew fire on Wednesday morning for issuing a blistering statement condemning the American embassy in Egypt for speaking against an incendiary anti-Muslim film, even though the embassy made the statement before any attacks had taken place. NBC's Chuck Todd, for instance, called the statement "irresponsible" and a "bad mistake." ABC's Jake Tapper said that Romney's attack "does not stand up to simple chronology.""
  9. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Well-Known Member

    Seriously, this is not a man for foreign policy at all at all.
  10. OutofDate1980

    OutofDate1980 Well-Known Member

  11. OutofDate1980

    OutofDate1980 Well-Known Member

    Well, Romney is toast. Well he at least knows he doesn't have to release those tax returns showing he received amnesty for his illegal Swiss bank account.


    Today, Mitt Romney Lost the Election - Bloomberg

    Romney is the most opaque presidential nominee since Nixon, and people have been reduced to guessing what his true feelings are. This video provides an answer: He feels that you're a loser. It's not an answer that wins elections.
  12. A.Nonymous

    A.Nonymous Well-Known Member

  13. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Well-Known Member

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  14. A.Nonymous

    A.Nonymous Well-Known Member

    This is where I go back to some of my previous rants about how f---ed up politics is. An idea is immediately crap because it's your opponents idea. Yet if your opponent opposes your idea it's because they are bad/evil/ignorant/want to send us back to the dark ages. So you become the hero for blocking every single think your opponent tries to do and the other party becomes the villain for even daring to question any of your ideas.
  15. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Well-Known Member

    Yeah thats what Republicans do.

    Its nice, even in Ireland Sinn F
  16. A.Nonymous

    A.Nonymous Well-Known Member

  17. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Well-Known Member

    Oh, they both do it, of course. But the thing is, the Republicans are worse.
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  18. Kahroo

    Kahroo Well-Known Member

  19. OutofDate1980

    OutofDate1980 Well-Known Member

  20. OutofDate1980

    OutofDate1980 Well-Known Member

    Yep, two whole vetoes.
  21. A.Nonymous

    A.Nonymous Well-Known Member

  22. OutofDate1980

    OutofDate1980 Well-Known Member

    I defer to your proximity.
  23. OutofDate1980

    OutofDate1980 Well-Known Member

    Hum, some claim he said something like that before the debate.:hmmmm:
  24. A.Nonymous

    A.Nonymous Well-Known Member

    Our state elections board is actually entertaining arguments from birthers who want Obama removed from the ballot. They've actually scheduled hearings to hear these people out. This is not the action of moderates. It's the action of right wing nutjobs.
  25. copestag

    copestag Well-Known Member

    its actually the actions of someone doing their jobs..... their responsibility is to at least hear the argument

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