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  1. loomer

    loomer Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    So with verizon LTE "switched on", the thing that concerns me is the degradation of their 3G network. Does anyone else have any concerns that perhaps as Verizon starts to release their latest and greatest 4G devices, that their 3G network will fall by the wayside? Is that a possibility?
     

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  2. sitlet

    sitlet Banned

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    The two are completely separate. The amount of users on 4g has no affect on users of 3g and vice versa.
     
  3. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    This is inaccurate. They will be traveling through the same backbone.
     
  4. sitlet

    sitlet Banned

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    Hmmm, I remember watching a news story a few months ago about sprints 4g, and they said that 4g is completely separate. they actually just add a bunch of fiber optic modems on top of the modems they already have at each tower.
     
  5. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Sprint 4G runs off of Clearwire/Comcast/Other Partners Backbone. Difference.
     
  6. dan330

    dan330 Well-Known Member

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    so...

    I would think that... the verizon 3G network will be better.. as more move to the 4G...
    less traffic on 3G..

    right?
     
  7. sitlet

    sitlet Banned

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    If you read the whopping 2 posts that Iowa talked about, you would realize that with verizon, 3g and 4g run on the same network. So therefore, if people drop 4g for 3g, there is still the same amount of people trying to use network services on that tower, and if anything the speeds would be lower.
     
  8. dan330

    dan330 Well-Known Member

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    he said backbone.... backbone can be the main backbone used by all telecom industry.

    or are you saying.. that verizon has it's own personal backbone for all it's traffic.. to all corners of the USA???
     
  9. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    o_O what do you think there is only one backbone server for the whole country o or something LOL....

    Newsflas. There are tons of back haul servers. Vzw probably has at least one in every major city.
     
  10. 3devious

    3devious Well-Known Member

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    Nope, we only have one and it's an Atari 800XL from 1987. If Apple sees fit to give us the iPhone, we'll upgrade to a Mac Plus from Steve Jobs' basement.

    Feel the power!
     
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    +1.... LTE and EV-DO. Comlpetely different and in no way effect each other
     
  12. Old Man

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    Won't 3G still be used for voice even with 4G used for data?
     
  13. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Hahahahahaha
     
  14. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Lol.... I just have to laugh here because if I said what I was thinking right now I'd get an infraction. :eek:
     
  15. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    No, 3G isn't used for voice at all. 1x is used for voice.
     
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    maybe i have been misinformed. could you explain how 3g and 4g are directly correlated. From my understanding it is the frequencies and technologies that separate them.
     
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    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Knewz Well-Known Member

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    So from this info is ok to assume all carriers use this same "back bone? "
     
  19. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    No....


    Internet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


     
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  20. Knewz

    Knewz Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the info... going back to the original question, 3g will eventually become lesser used, but will be readily available for those who dont want 4g. Just as when 3g launched, 1xrtt was still present (as it still is)
     
  21. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Err do you know how plumbing works?
     
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    Knewz Well-Known Member

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    vaguely
     
  23. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Ok this is a bit crude, but it works.

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    Think of 3G is #3.

    Think of 4G as #6

    Now they carry all the information.

    They both have to go through #9, which is the Back haul server.

    There are lots of back haul servers.
     
  24. VZWguyNH

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    now 3g will not fall by the way side.. you will beable on a 4g modem and other 4g devices to seamlessly switch between 3g and 4g when avalible. this will happen automaticlly. When you move to an area with 4g (38 US cities) your device will automaticaly detect 4g and switch to that. When you move out of the4g area it will seamlessly go back to 3g So the 3g network will not be neglected.. at least until 3g is totally pushed out and replaced by 4g
     
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    I have no idea what is worst, the fact that it is 9:39pm, and I am still in my lab, or this thread.

    This thread.

    Two things and guess what, everyone is right.

    1.) 4g uses the same backbone has 3g and all other data. Which means if there is bottleneck between the tower and the internet, the speeds will slow regardless of what you use. But if there is not major problems between tower and internet server, see number 2.

    2.) 4g has a higher efficiency then 3g. On average one person on 3g is like 3 people on 4g. So you can triple your bandwidth by just moving 1 person from 3g to 4g.

    So you are both right. It does use the same equipment which can slow it down, but should not slow it down because of the efficiency of the protocols.
    But if your 4g/3g tower is passing through an other 3g tower to connect to a internet server. Everyone gets hosed.

    VZWguyNH
    You are wrong, as it currently stands, lte will have to displace, text, voice, 3g, and 2g on both att and verizon networks to bring lte-a. There is simply not enough bandwidth. All of the bandwidth use will have to be coverented to lte-a. Sorry, has to happen. As it currently stands.
     

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