Verizon 4G


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  1. Robfactory

    Robfactory Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    America's Most Expensive Network just unveiled their 4G LTE band, 700 MHz.
    Customers can go to Verizon Wireless' webpage and register for a webcast on Wednesday, January 20, at 11 A.M.
    According Verizon's press release they will cover 25 to 30 markets by the end of next year and completely cover their "map" in 4G by 2013.
    The new 4G will be limited to 12Mbps. I'm sure during the next year Verizon will have a "Map for that" commercial illustrating their expensive 4G network over AT&Ts.
    So, save your pennies this X-mas so you can upgrade to 4G next year.
     

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  2. yankeeboy

    yankeeboy Well-Known Member

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    Bitter much? :eek:
     
  3. Robfactory

    Robfactory Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Not really...just stating the truth. Isn't Verizon the most expensive network?
     
  4. craigrn16

    craigrn16 Well-Known Member

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    lol he is right verizon is rediculously expensive. They are reliable though so I guess I shouldnt be mad.
     
  5. iAndroiid

    iAndroiid Well-Known Member

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    will this be avaliable or work with all verizon phones?
     
  6. Robfactory

    Robfactory Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    The phone has to be 4G compatible.
     
  7. iAndroiid

    iAndroiid Well-Known Member

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    i wonder when the iphone is coming out for verizon?
     
  8. redman2563

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    Dont get excited people, this 4g coverage they speak up in the 30 markets will most likely only be for air cards. that means nothing to us cellphone users. the phone has to be 4g, and theres no such thing as of now. The same thing with sprint, they have 4g too in certain markets but its only applicable to air cards. Now in 2013, its another story but thats still a long ways off. Merry christmas!
     
  9. Spectral

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    It is a sweet step up for the technology. Their market will cover more than Sprints but hopefully we can get some highspeeds up so when I can upgrade from my Droid there will be a cell phone with 4G capability that I can use!
     
  10. yankeeboy

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    You are sort of correct....yes, initially, M2M and Data Cards will be the focus - however - I cant see them making a hugh splash with this until an integrated device comes out.....my first guess is an iPhone, but only because AT&T still has not resigned the exclusive contract with Apple and Qualcomm is hard at work to launch the chipset that will allow for CDMA and LTE on the same chip.

    I would also suggest that Verizon is the most expensive because they have the largest coverage area, the largest 3G area by far, and because people continue to pay for it. They have come WAY down in equipment pricing (except that stupid ETF). If you dont like Verizon's pricing, go ahead and buy T-Mobile's crappy service, AT&T's over-saturated 3G network or Sprint's under funded network. :D Merry Christmas
     
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    Sprint is essentially the same coverage as Verizion. So pay more for the same services if you want. And Sprint already has their 4G air cards up and running in many market.
     
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    We will, thanks.
     
  13. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Sprint and Verizon have the same exact coverage as far as 3G goes, actually Sprint was proven MORE RELIABLE in many 3rd party studies, and as for 4G sprint will have nationwide rollout by 2010/2011. And as an added bonus, Sprint doesn't cripple their devices like Verizon does. And no-one still can touch Sprint/Nextels PTT. And when it comes to 4G bandwidth, Sprint WILL win in the longrun, as they own more spectrum than Verizon/ATT combined.
     
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    I would consider sprint vs verizon but I wouldn't even take a free phone from at&t or t-mobile. Their coverage is simply unacceptable
     
  15. craigrn16

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    As a former sprint owner that switched to verizon I beg to differ. My service was terrible with Sprint when I moved to my new place so I had to switch and now no dropped calls.
     
  16. darreno1

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    +1

    Totally agree, I had Sprint for several months with my Pre and while the service was decent, the coverage is not quite what I'm getting with Verizon. At home I get full bars now, with Sprint I only managed 1-2 bars for the most. At work it was the same. Of course I can only speak for myself but down here in S.Fla Sprint coverage is supposed to be great.

    What Sprint has over Verizon is cheaper service. $99 for unlimited everything is hard to beat. Luckily for me I don't need unlimited minutes so my current 900-minute Verizon plan is actually cheaper than what I payed under Sprint.
     
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    My girlfriend is on Sprint, I'm on Verizon. Her coverage is so laughable in our area that she's managed to commit many of the dead zones to memory. While we're driving, she'll tell someone she's talking to that we're coming up to a dead zone and that she'll call them back once we've passed it. :D
    Going any more than 50 miles out of town and her connectivity is a total crap shoot whereas mine is always rock solid.
    Tunnels/parking garages etc, again, hers gets glitchy.

    I think my plan is about $10 more/month than hers which I'm perfectly happy paying.
     
  18. shawn487

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    ya sprint has nothing on verizon where i live. i go in the basement and i loose signal all together. only reason why im on sprint is because of the discount i used to get from my old job that i still am getting. i am just waitting for a phone i really like and can use for a year + before i switch to verizon. i really hope they release the incredible/bravo/passion/bulletproofheatseakingmisslephonewithandroid sometime in the near future (sometime before march)
     
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    Not at all. 4g? I'm going to sign with the company that has the best coverage 3g or 4g in 2011. Because by then phone will have hopefully evolved to VOIP and I can obmit my voice package altogether.:D
     
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    I love how this thread has turned to shyte.. Verizon hasn't failed me yet.
     
  21. yankeeboy

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    Not true. :rolleyes:
     
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    Don't hold your breath - carriers are definately not rushing to VOIP anytime soon.
     
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    Other networks actually are more expensive because I would pay for the plan and then carry money around for a payphone when I wanted to make a call. If you're upset about Verizon's prices, don't pay them.

    Go to T-mobile, they are cheap and will be getting the N1.

    So does anyone who actually knows more about this new network other than that it will be expensive have anything to tell us about what it will be like? Will it be that hsdpa? When I was reading some of the early information about it, it seemed pretty scalable, adaptable, and everything else a new technology that mostly exists on paper.
     
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    3Devious

    Yes, I know a lot about it.

    It will run in the 700 MHz frequency won during the auctions of the public TV airwaves - better in-building propagation (penetration).

    Theoretical speeds max at 100 Mbps downlink/50 Mbps uplink, you will hear 12 Mbps downlink and 6 uplink to start, as the equipment manufacturers tweak their algorithims in the future, the speeds will increase. There was a rumored story that the VZW tests in Boston hit 60 Mbps down.

    Cost - I wouldn't actually say it WILL cost more - I think that once they are rolling out, you will see different pricing structures similar to your home cable internet/fiber provider Silver/Gold/Platinum - based on the speeds that you want. For the enterprise customer, QoS is achievable as well. The other thing about cost is on the carrier side - it costs VZW 1/5 the cost to deliver LTE, and it costs them less to roll it out because you need less cell sites on the 700 MHz frequency.

    Latency - The huge difference that you will see with LTE is a latency quoted around ~ 25 ms.....current EVDO - Rev A letency ~ 150 ms. Video, high bandwidth applications will run like they do on your broadband network - even better in some cases due to the IMS (IP Multimedia Subsystems packet switching capabilities) infrastructure. Video conferencing, VOIP, callaboration are all very real capabilities.

    At first, M2M and Data Cards will take advantage of LTE, but I wouldnt rule out a handheld device at some point next year to see VZW flex their muscles.

    The most exciting part of this rollout is that VZW owns the rights to put a cell ANYWHERE in the 49 US states which exclude Alaska (I guess they dont like Sarah Palin either) . They are the only carrier to do this, and they own the largest "pipe" between 24 MHz and 48 MHz of any of the carriers....in contrast, AT&T purchased "B Block" licenses, same 700 MHz, yet they only purchased licenses in the same cities they operate in and MAX OUT at 12 MHZ - no room for growth.
     
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    You're absolutely right and some people just aren't aware of this. Sprint's WiMax (4G) operates at 2500MHz. T-Mobile exclusively at 1700MHz for 3G has causes issues with in-building reception. I know this for fact to be an issue in the Balt/DC area. Look at the problems AT&T had with 1900MHz UMTS in NYC. They've had to turn on more 850MHz cells to improve indoor reception, and they've openly admitted to such in press releases. You want to go lower in the frequency spectrum, not higher, to improve penetration of solid objects. Verizon (and AT&T) are going to push better 4G service to customers with fewer cell sites using LTE vs Sprint and WiMax.

    Exactly. The "most expensive network" invests the most money in their network and it's clear with the superior combination of coverage and reliability. If LTE costs less, Verizon is more likely to still spend the money for faster rollout and larger coverage. I foresee cash-strapped AT&T using the cost savings to simply keep their costs down by putting up LTE sites fewer and farther between, resulting in less bars in more places.

    The funny thing with Sprint customers claiming they have the same coverage as Verizon due to roaming agreements while paying less, well they don't realize that with Sprint, you pay through the nose when roaming with data usage. Only Sprint's voice service is umlimited roaming.
     

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