Root Very Sorry for the Newb qtn

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  1. Zoust

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    Sorry guys - i did have abrief read but could not find what i was looking for.

    I have over 4600 contacts to sync - which takes up too much space on the non-sd storage

    I can export the contacts to SD but then Sense cant use them and the phone cant see them -

    I am just now learning of "rooting" - LOL but I am not convinced this will help with Outlook -- IE wont the app still look in the default directory - same as the phone.

    I know apps can run from the SD after rooting - but what about contacts - will I lose any functionality?

    Also - I am in Australia - will Rooting and using the Roms I see in here make my phone not work here?

    Thanks and sorry for the Newb Q's
     

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  2. droidzone

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    I believe some flavors of ROMS move the data folder (including Contacts) to ext3 partition after installation. At least that's what I think. Because after installing Neophyte ROM after rooting and creating a ext3 on sdcard, it freed the majority of my internal storage. And my data folder is no longer in Internal Memory.
     
  3. teppic74

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    A2SD only moves the apps, the rest is stored internally as usual.
     
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    True..Found that just now. It did move the data folder from Internal Storage, but Contacts data is still in Internal.
     
  5. SUroot

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    Its just data/app
     
  6. droidzone

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    In that case, why are some apks still in Internal Storage even after A2SD? What is their actual location/mount?
     
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    which apks?
     
  8. droidzone

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    The following are the apks which DiskUsage tells me are still in Internal Storage:
    Adobe Flash Player,
    QuickOffice,
    SvoxClassic TTS,
    Facebook,
    Doubletwist.

    Of course there are a lot of others KBs mosty around 500 Kb or so.. And HTC Apks.
     
  9. SUroot

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    Well the ext partition shows as internal storage anyway. If you use android mate to explore data/app, you'll see the address bar change to system/sd/app

    Browse there to see if you can find these...
     
  10. Zoust

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    Thats a shame, this phone might as well be a brick now - I guess i have to wait until the Desire Z is released or switch the to SGS - I love this phone, but I need to have my ccntacts and the stupid design of small flash memory is going to wreck it for me
     
  11. droidzone

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    Yup, found them there. So they're actually not in internal memory, but in ext?
     
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    If it changes to system/sd/app, they're not in internal memory. However because of how a2sd+ works, your phone thinks it is internal memory.
     
  13. droidzone

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    Aha..great piece of work, A2SD!

    O thought the froyo upgrade was supposed to permanently take care of the memory problem. But I guess Google is still making apps decide whether they want to install in int or ext, even if we do a setinstall location command. Unfotunate, that we still have to depends on A2SD.
     
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    Even if a2sd allowed all apps to be moved, its still not as good as a2sd+.
     
  15. droidzone

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    Oops I meant A2SD+

    And I agree. With A2SD+, I now have more than 150apps on the phone with still about 70Mb left!

    One doubt..Is A2SD+ automatic. Is it possible to inadvertently turn it off. I ask because I have an app called Move2SD enabler. I wonder if it works with A2SD or A2SD+.
     
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    No idea about that app. But you don't need it. It is completely automatic.
     
  17. teppic74

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    Why?
     
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    It doesn't move the dalvik cache.
     
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    That's a downside, but the 'official' method is considerably better in design and reliability. A2SD+ is, however useful, just a hack.
     
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    Its an upside for me and even though I only have a class 4 card, I can't say I get better performance, but its no worse.
     
  21. teppic74

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    I meant it's a downside that you cannot move the dalvik-cache with froyo's implementation. Moving the dalvik-cache onto a slow sdcard will slightly decrease performance (on a fully deodexed rom and a class 2 sdcard it would be noticeable).
     
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    Yes, it is a downside. That and the developer having to code it. Other than that it would be much better than the current a2sd+. Id rather have full control through a UI of what is moved and what isn't. Especially widgets. I do get the odd widget problem.

    But for now, its the best solution I have got :(
     
  23. teppic74

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    A2SD+ is very basic - any developer with a basic understanding of Unix/Linux would be able to write it. Hopefully before long all apps will be movable with the official version, and if you don't have a deodexed rom (as is the case for all the stock roms) the cache will be very small (usually 20mb or less).
     
  24. Zoust

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    Thnaks for all the info - however from what I read above - this mostly pertains to Apps, from everyhting I have read - contacts must reside on Internal memory to be able to be accessed by the phone - can we confirm this?
     
  25. SUroot

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    Contacts do reside in internal memory. That is correct
     
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