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Way To Go Texas


  1. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Well-Known Member

    Any comments?

    "Since June 2009, nearly 40% of the net new jobs in America have been created in Texas, and those jobs are being created in a climate that actually encourages such growth. While it is true that Texas also created jobs in previous decades, so did the nation. But since I became Texas governor in December 2000, Texas has added more than 1 million net new jobs while the rest of the nation has lost nearly 2.5 million jobs."

    Rick Perry: Job creators pick Texas ? USATODAY.com

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  2. Joe Dirt

    Joe Dirt Well-Known Member

    Yeah we rule.
  3. Way to go Texas!

    I thought Republicans want LESS government?
  4. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Well-Known Member

    We/they do. We can't help it if one of our own decides to go against a key conservative republican tenant. Some republicans are fools and a few are RINOs. We can't help that. All we can do is find those Regan conservatives and vote for them.

    I really hate when a republican acts the fool and all republicans are considered the same by the liberal press. We are not the same and I will certainly admit that there are some silly republicans out there.

    Conservatives believe in individual liberty, conservatives believe in limited government, conservatives believe in original intent and conservative judges, conservatives believe that the bill of rights limits government, not the people; conservatives believe that the constitution can be altered, but only by amendment, conservatives believe in the right to own property, conservatives believe that no man is free if he is restricted from owning and possessing property, conservatives believe in equality, conservatives believe in limited, fair taxation, conservatives believe that the federal government expansion into socialized benefits is prohibited by the 10th amendment and that it has undermined the 5th amendment to the constitution.
  5. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Well-Known Member

    Wasn't Texas one of the states one of the states least affected by the property/lending bubble due to high property taxes?
  6. Frisco

    Frisco =Luceat Lux Vestra= VIP Member

    ^^^
    From:

    What Conservatives Believe
  7. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Well-Known Member

    I must apologize to the mods. I replied to some blather about how republicans want this or that when the topic posted by the lovely Bob wanted to discuss Texan and their job creation record.

    Yup, you can read it there but I pulled it from my notes for a speech I was to give at the SLC Public Library. The list came from Rush, I believe. I also saw it in a Heritage Foundation publication.

    Still, this is what we believe.

    I am likely not a true Republican because I do think abortion is not always evil.

    Not sure. I must give credit to Texas because they are making it work. I find it astounding that one state is responsible for so many jobs compared to the rest of the country.

    I will not move there because I do not like the heat.

    Perhaps other states will take a look at Texas and work some of the same magic

    Way to Go, Texas.
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  8. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Well-Known Member

    So Joe . . . as a proud Texan, can you tell us how Texas did what they did and why it seems to work? I must admit, I do not know your Govenor. He seems on top of things, though.
  9. Your thread title was "Way to go Texas."

    I'm pointing out that Texas did some stupid things, continuing the Texas discussion.
  10. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Well-Known Member


    That was the title, indeed it was. And it was to congradulate Texas for job creation, the subject of the thread. I am sure Texas did some stupid things, but not part of the thread. Job creation was.
  11. Joe Dirt

    Joe Dirt Well-Known Member

    Tax breaks for companies to come in and open up shop. Low cost of living, no state income tax and affordable housing. California is taxing the hell out of businesses combined with high housing cost, people are leaving that state and coming to Texas. I've had two families move in to my neighborhood from cali this summer. Sure we may lack in some areas but it's finding a job is easier.
  12. Frisco

    Frisco =Luceat Lux Vestra= VIP Member

    The quote in the first post is from Rick Perry. Is this about him as much as Texas in general (topic title). It's fine either way, but I keep hoping for a good thread in here about announced Presidential candidates in particular.
  13. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Well-Known Member

    My guess is as Texas prospers, other states will try to follow. I read a link to why Texas should perhaps be given less credit than the headlines suggest, but apparently, you are growing and creating jobs at a much higher national average. Good for you.

    I would move there if the climate were more to my linking.
  14. Bundy

    Bundy Well-Known Member

    I don't see him getting to the general election. When it comes down to it, he just sounds, thinks and acts too much like the last Texas president, and the middle of the country - the one that actually decides elections - isn't going there again anytime soon IMO.

    As far as job growth in Texas, he has some problems there, too: A) Those numbers are on the decline; B) A lot of the jobs created were public sector/government jobs that were supported by the $17+ billion in stimulus money he took (after deciding not to secede); C) The vast majority of the rest of those jobs were low-paying, low-skill jobs (to support a population boom - like retail clerks).

    It's good campaign rhetoric, but when the time comes for him to prove it, he's going to have a problem. By then, the budget cuts are going to have kicked in and jobs will have been lost in the public sector. Like that USA Today article linked above talks about, this is Michael Dukakis, 1988 all over again. This time with the added issue of that 'Texas swagger' that makes a lot of people uneasy still.
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  15. Vihzel

    Vihzel Destroying Balls Everyday VIP Member

    Thank you! Someone actually looked at the article link that I put up. lol
  16. OutofDate1980

    OutofDate1980 Well-Known Member

    "Also, Texas was spared the worst of the housing crisis, partly because it turns out to have surprisingly strict regulation of mortgage lending."

    "By the way, one in four Texans lacks health insurance, the highest proportion in the nation, thanks largely to the state’s small-government approach."

    "At the same time, the rapid growth in the Texas work force keeps wages low — nearly 10 percent of hourly Texan workers earn the minimum wage or less, well above the national average — and these low wages give corporations an incentive to move production to the Lone Star State."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/the-texas-unmiracle.html?_r=1
  17. You know, the worst part is, texas still has an unemployment rate of 8.4% will up there with the nation average. If they managed to add 1 million low paying, no coverage, part time work, congratulations. They took their unemployment from 1 well above 10% to 8 percent by forcing people to work at minimum wage.

    Because to be honest, out of the 1 million jobs that perry is boasting about, 269,000 are non seasonal jobs.

    Which means that the 731,000 jobs that are seasonal will go away soon.

    If you remove those jobs, you will see that texas as grown about the same as the rest of the country.

    Regional and State Employment and Unemployment Summary

    Notice seasonally adjusted numbers.


    If you really want me to go after perry I can, but trust me, he will look not very bright.
    Gmash likes this.
  18. Edit, I have to edit what I said above. Sorry, did not read the article.

    Perry is qouted in saying that he added 1 million jobs IN 10 YEARS. I thought he said he added 1 million jobs in since june 2009.
    Looking at the real number, we have lost only 1.4 million jobs since 2009. But considering that clinton add 22 million jobs in 8 years, but bush only added 1 million in 8 years, perry is still changing the facts.
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  19. zuben el genub

    zuben el genub Well-Known Member

    What kind of assistance would they want for the latest catastrophes? Drought and now another round of fires. If congress is having a tough time dealing with Irene's aftermath which affects more people, then what will this disaster do to Texas?

    NASA cutting back won't help either.

    BTW - southern CO is included in that drought.
  20. robertj298

    robertj298 Well-Known Member

    We don't want the facts . We just want the hype LOL
  21. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Well-Known Member

    Well after a quick Google I found they apparently Texas has one of the highest property taxes in the USA (could be as much as 5% of value apparently)
    Such high taxes would quell any property bubble, and thus would lead to less job losses in a bust.
    Its just reasonable that it would have a decent net job creation rate.
    Proves the importance of a high property tax I'd say!
  22. cjr72

    cjr72 Well-Known Member

    Here in Texas you can only borrow up to 80% of your home's value unlike many other states where people's homes were treated as personal ATM machines during the bubble. Texas also has less restrictive land use policies which helps keep building costs lower than states with more restrictive land use policies. These are the two main reasons I've seen cited for Texas avoiding the housing bubble.

    As far as the criticisms of Texas' performance here's a link to an article that digs a little deeper than the usual drive-by analysis:
    Rick Perry And Texas Job Numbers Political Math
  23. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Well-Known Member

    Thats very sensible regarding the borrow limit! How would less restrictive land zoning stop a bubble though?
  24. cjr72

    cjr72 Well-Known Member

    The lower house prices that result from less restrictive land use policies made Texas less attractive to speculators. On the other hand the artificial scarcity created by more restrictive land use policies in other states helped drive up prices which in turn encouraged rampant speculation.
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