so the rumor is he phone that was being held today was the htc hero but its not confirmed, i think they think that just because it had sense ui. but anyway i dont like the matte look finish it has or the built in menu, back etc. keys into the bottom of the screen it looks more like the tattoo. and lets face it VZW will probably gimp it but i hope they wont. but id much rather pay less on the fastest data network what about you?