What makes the Nexus One a "game changer"?


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  1. Mykpfsu

    Mykpfsu Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Simple question. So far the idea of going to any carrier while using only VOIP with the Nexus seems to have gone by the wayside. Its tied to Tmobile and they dont seem to have data only plans. Someone is going to have to subsidize this thing. Either Tmobile with a plan of theirs or Google itself and you'll get more ads in your apps then you do now. But if Google subsidizes it its still just an unlocked GSM phone. So whats so grand about it?
     

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    twospirits AF's janitor Moderator

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    Good question, but what strkes me odd of all things is that they named it Nexus 1. Nexus according to the dictionary means... connection, joint, link. From what I've seen its just another phone with a few things here and there that stand out, but nothing that makes it scream or connect/link carriers, protocol, etc. For a truly nexus it should have both CDMA, GSM, Lite and 4G capability, 1Ghz processor etc. The list can go on. That would make a kick butt phone one that is truly a nexus.

    But what do i know thats just my opinion.

    TS out
     
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    Mykpfsu Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I think its a reference to the replicants (i.e an Android) in the movie BladeRunner. The Nexus Ones were the first replicant models (bio mechinical). Of course they would lead up to the Nexus 6 models that would go batshit insane and start killing people.
     
  4. Rix

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    The deep integration of speech recognition technology. It will be more revolutionary than having a touchscreen on a phone.
     
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    Mykpfsu Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    So how "deep" is the integration? I mean it sounds cool to throw that out there. But what does it actually mean? So you can search your phone through voice commands? But you can already do that. Tell your phone what to do using your voice? Thats already here. Saying you want to go somewhere general and having a nav app use the internet to figure out where you want to go? Already here for Android 1.6 and up. Only thing real (I'm not telling my phone to scroll left or turn off) left is voice to text. But that hardly seems like a hardware issue so it shouldn't be exclusive to Nexus One unless they keep a special version of Android 2.1 (as HTC already has Sense working with 2.1). Otherwise its an app and with the speech recognition on phones like the Eris or Droid it doesn't seem like it wouldn't work on them. At worst you dont have a second mic to keep out back ground noises, but thats not much.
     
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    Nothing.

    I have no idea why theres this much hype for what amounts to a slightly faster than Droid , no KB ,Same size screen for T-Mobile.

    Theres nothing about this phone hardware/software/appearance that is anything extraordinary.

    Iphone and Android are still light years behind in speech recognition. Voice dialing is terrible. And the rest is mediocre compared to what even old PPC was doing. I can already voice search by default and voice to text with Handcent.

    Still no video uploaded showing what the rumored 720p recording looks like. The camera pics are doo doo. No sign of Google themselves subsidizing. No sign of a Google Voice 'data only' possibility. No sign of it being att 3g compatible.

    All it looks like to little old me is a possibly fantastic upgrade to G1/MT/Cliq. Im still waiting for SnapDragon/Droid benchmark comparison. To forfeit the KB I hope its much faster.
     
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    Deeper than the deepest oceans on Earth. The speech recognition technology in phones today is, at best, primitive (and yes I'm aware of the nuance app on the iPhone) when compared to what the N1 will bring.
     
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    Mykpfsu Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    So basically you have no clue. Sorry but the N1 aint gonna have better recognition then either the Eris (aka the other phone HTC has made) or Droid (aka the other phone running 2.0).
     
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    Reports coming directly from people who have used the phone say that speech to text works with every app and its fast.
     
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    Game changer? Maybe not, but it will be a major step change. The competition must also change or be left behind. See Win Mo, ver 7 release Q4. The latest iPhone will be released Q1. The race is on and we will be the winners.
     
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    Mykpfsu Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Map Nav, Search are already there. But again there is nothing that shows this is a hardware feature. In fact PC World is reporting this is a Android 2.1 function.

    Google's Nexus Will Change Smartphone Landscape - PC World

    Google's Nexus One Android phone makes a splash - News - Linux for Devices

    Hence the Eris (Android 2.1 with Sense leaked) most likely and probably the Moto Droid along with perhaps the Sprint Hero will have this feature in time. So this is the game changing feature? Not really game changing when at least 1 phone if not 3 will have the same feature before the end of Q1 of 2010.
     
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    The game changing aspect is the potential to have a reasonably priced unlocked phone that can run on multiple carriers.

    Apparently there are other versions of the Nexus One that are CDMA variants.
     
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    Yeah. But the N1 is the first to have that speech recognition technology, therefore the N1 is the game changer. It sets a path for others to follow.
     
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    Okay so there's nothing game changing at all then. It doesn't work on multiple networks at all. It works on one and a half networks. Tmobile and AT&T edge network.

    There has been no evidence of any CDMA version coming unless of course you count the wishful thinking on these forums. However I don't count that so we're back to zero proof.

    So it sounds like you only further proved what op was stating. How is this "game changing" again?
     
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    Mykpfsu Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Considering someone just ported 2.1 over to the Droid, and the Droid is actually on sale to consumers, the Droid becomes the game changer. Not to mention Verizon has already announced what is going to be the 2.1 upgrade for the Eris. So actually twice now Verizon has made the game changing move first. So by your standard Google is following the path set by Verizon. Or are you prepared the admit possibly launching software a month before someone else isn't game changing? In fact you've proven my argument, thanks.
     
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    Mykpfsu Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Well you have 2 options to have the phone "reasonably priced" if it actually goes retail. 1) Tmobile subsidizes it when you get one of their plans (and most likely they'll force voice as part of the plan) or 2) Google will subsidize it so you can have the freedom of taking your phone everywhere all the while seeing more and more advertising in your apps and I would take a guess preferential treatment to advertisers in some apps like maps nav.
    The first isn't a change at all and the second could be interesting but more annoying, if you like having a plan on the 4th smallest 3G coverage area. What freedom.
     
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    Who said this phone would be game changing? Is it meant to be? Do we even know all the features yet or what google has up their sleeves? no...no...no..
    I can think of 2 good and ligament reasons for all of this hype.
    1.) This will be the "google phone". The first hardware implementation from the "household name" software company. This is just interesting in itself.

    2.)It will be the BEST android phone available and likely the BEST PHONE PERIOD when it launches. The DROID has been receiving rave reviews and is an awesome phone and this only raises the bar higher.

    So even if it isn't game changing, it's definably a interesting, exciting, and very desirable phone.
     
  19. Droidz

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    Actually there are several sources calling this a game changer. Here are just a few:

    Google's Nexus One-Potential Game Changer or Possible Flop (GOOG) - Comtex SmarTrend Alert

    http://www.contracostatimes.com/business/ci_14001741?nclick_check=1

    Will A Google Phone Change The Game?

    And that's only taking the top three Google results. So yes, people are claiming this is a game changer. Whether it truly is I'm a little uncertain.
     
  20. Rix

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    Nope, that's not how it works. In order to be considered a game changer, the general consumer needs to be aware of the change. Virtually nobody has 2.1 on their droid. How can it change the game if nobody is aware of it?

    They've announced it, they haven't actually done it. It makes all the difference.
     
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    Mykpfsu Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Comparatively speaking no one is on Tmobile (32 million compared to the other 218 million on the major 3 networks). See here is your problem, the Nexus One is not forcing Verizon to change its game. Verizon/HTC are going ahead as planned and will give the Eris the same capabilities as the Nexus One. Nothing about the Nexus is changing anything. In fact since Verizon announced the Eris upgrade before anything released about the Nexus its more likely Google released news of the Nexus to counter Verizon's upgrade (assuming its a consumer device). Which would mean Google is dancing to Verizon's tune, going by your standards thats means Verizon is changing the game more and forcing Google to adapt. This is even more evident when you consider the name "nexus one" was already under copyright (blade runner, dreaming of electric sheep) when Google applied for the trademark. Google was in too much of a rush and couldn't look into the legal ramifications of the name. What would cause them to rush so?
     

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