When referring to "torrenting a discography", what do you think the word means?


Meaning of "discography" in the torrent sense of the word.

  1. A smile text file/pdf that more or less contains a descriptive list of recordings, etc...

    2.6%
  2. All studio albums (perhaps singles, live albums, etc...) by an artist or band.

    97.4%
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  1. polkadots

    polkadots Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Imagine you're using using a torrent website, private or otherwise, and a bit torrent client...when someone is talking about downloading a discography what is your understanding of the word "discography"?

    1 - A smile text file/pdf that more or less contains a descriptive list of recordings by category, composer, performer, or date of release and it can be read (text file only).

    OR

    2 - A collection of music files (MP3s, FLAC, etc...) of all studio albums (perhaps singles, live albums, etc...) by an artist or band that can be listened to.
     

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  2. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    1.) Because it is the correct and most commonly used definition of the word.

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    polkadots Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    In the context that I proposed? I would beg to differ, Dwight.
     
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    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Ok Alice.

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    polkadots Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I explained Dwight...return the favor with Alice? :)
     
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    kutsushita Well-Known Member

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    Since I know of this new thing called the "intranats" I'd say no.2 is what a super tech savvy "intranets" master would consider to be correct.
     
  7. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Fair enough. Its from a movie.

    Now what tv show is yours from?

    Tell me yours and ill tell you mine ;)

    Also, there is a difference between an "intranet" and the internet.

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    polkadots Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    The Office, US Version.

    And I assume that kutsushita was just being facetious. Don't you?
     
  9. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Hard to convey sarcasm on the 'net.

    And my reference, was Alice, (in wonderland).

    Never did like The Office.


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    polkadots Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    Not quite the results you were expecting, huh Dwight?
     
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    Pryomancer Well-Known Member

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    The original UK series The Office is sublime. The US one has Steve Carell. Even if it wasn't a rip off, it would still suck.

    And a discography, when I'm torrenting, is logical to assume it is the actual song files, not just a list of the albums.
     
  12. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Actually no, logic would dictate your use of the correct meaning of the word. Your logic is flawed.

    Ask someone in the music industry what a discography means.

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  13. Pryomancer

    Pryomancer Well-Known Member

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    In the context of torrenting, it would obviously mean the song files.
     
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  14. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Umm, no it wouldn't. You can, in fact, torrent a true discography. Just because a handful of people use the word wrong, doesn't make it right.

    Like the ebonics term 'runner'. Do you know what that means? I assure you it is not the correct meaning, or widely accepted meaning of the word.

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  15. Pryomancer

    Pryomancer Well-Known Member

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    You certainly can torrent the 'true' version of what a discography is.
    The fact is the term is the best way to describe a complete collection of a musician's/band's music available for downloading. Words can change meaning, that's how language evolves.

    The argument for me is not whether the usage of the word is correct. The question was asking for my perception of what downloading a discography meant. You can bet that the majority of people who would search for a discography on the pirate bay (for example) aren't looking for a text file containing a list of entries.
     
  16. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Well this thread is a petty attempt to try to prove something that stemmed from another thread, which was a big misunderstanding.

    Thread was titled "torrenting on the evo" or something like that, when I had replied to a comment to polkadots that a discography would be small enough to download without torrent, hence the argument.

    She then disclosed that I should know what "discography" meant, and I then showed her the definition of said word. Then she said I don't know what I'm talking about, because I don't live and die by torrent sites, and aren't up to the lingo :rolleyes:

    so the real question she should have asked is, "what is a discography" instead of warping it to suit her needs.

    But hey, if she needs some false justification to make herself feel better, so be it.

    But I remain steadfast in what I say.

    And btw, the correct term, in this instance, could be "torrenting a complete compilation".

    So should we put 'ebonics' into the english language as well, since it is popular slang among certain crowds?

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  17. Pryomancer

    Pryomancer Well-Known Member

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    I see; I didn't read that topic, it makes more sense now.

    It sounds to me like you knew perfectly well what they were talking about concerning torrenting a discography. I've seen your other posts, you know what you're talking about and are intelligent, so it doesn't seem to be ignorance on your behalf. You just threw in the facetious remark to troll.

    I'm sort of ambivalent about the use of 'discography' in torrenting. You are right, its original definition is purely about the categorisation of musical works. However you can easily extend the meaning to include what torrenting one would involve. It's not an outright blasphemy against the English language to use that meaning, in fact it's just sensible, and will eventually

    What does the 'runner' thing mean anyway? Can you explain it? I've not come across that word before.
     
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    polkadots Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    No, you're wrong again. The entire context of the other thread was torrenting...as such I and many others assumed the correct interpretation of the word "discography" in that context. This poll is also referring to the context which I originally used it in. As you can clearly see that in the context of torrenting that most everyone, 14-0 (1), also understands that context. It's remarkable how pigheaded and how wrong you are.

    The whole thing started when you claimed that torrenting was "lamesauce" on an EVO. I merely pointed out that maybe someone wanted some tunes on the fly - perhaps a discography - to listen to for whatever reason. Downloading all albums by an artist/band would best be done in a zipped up file via bit torrent, as opposed to a piece-meal downloading of each song file. That's when you decided to be contrarian.

    And furthermore, I don't expect you to know anything about bit torrent. It is quite clear that your knowledge is limited, and that's quite alright. There are plenty of things where my knowledge is limited. But you don't see me jumping in and offering advice, or in your case shitting on the advice being offered, without knowing what I'm talking about as is clearly the case with you.

    Lastly, the issue of slang. Languages as you no doubt know are not static. They evolve over time, and over time words and phrases have their meaning changed. I have no idea what the term "runner" is in ebonics, but I can assure you that it's not unreasonable to assume that some words will eventually receive new definitions as their meaning changes with context, which is what we're seeing here. However I am expecting you to get all huffy about this issue as well.

    Long story short, I'm right and you're wrong Dwight.
     
  19. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Maybe in your own little wonderland, alice.

    And a 'runner' is basically someone who sleeps around, to put it nicely.

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    polkadots Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    So, a whore. Someone who is DTF, as the kids say. Eh, I don't think that one will make it to the dictionary...but maybe?
     
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    torrenting a discography = looking for a torrent containing a collection of music from a group/artist

    Period. Anyone that says different doesn't know what they're talking about.
     
  22. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    So webster, britannica, you know, people who define the english language, are completely oblivious to the meanings of words. Sure glad I didn't go to your school.

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    330D From My Cold Dead Hands VIP Member

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    From an outsider who doesn't do torrents, so I don't really know....


    A discography seems to me to be the complete works of an artist.
    Torrenting= (now tell me if I'm wrong) downloading the music from a site where it is shared?????

    Sooooo, Torrenting a discography= downloading the complete works of an artist
     
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    polkadots Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I am beginning to think that you have no clue about context when it comes to the understanding of words. Honestly, I really think you don't get it. You seem like a smart enough guy, but I am starting to question your comprehension and understanding skills when it comes to reading.
     
  25. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants Moderator

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    Sort of. A torrent site is a place that hosts torrent files, for all kinds of things. From music, movies, games. Basically anything you can run on your machine. And when you download the torrent, you then open it in a torrent client. The torrent client then seeks out other machines with the same file(peer2peer) and downloads it in pieces from other people, to make the download faster.

    And yes alice, my reading and comprehension is flawed because I know the proper and correct usage of terms, and prefer not to follow every small-cult slang out there. :rolleyes:

    I don't really give a hoot what 'context' it was used in, its still incorrect. You can't argue with facts. Just because people who frequent torrent sites can't figure out how to properly describe what media they are downloading, and uses an incorrect term for it, in no way shape or form makes the usage of the word correct.

    And yes, I knew what you had implied, but some (most) people won't. And throwing out a 'survey' on a tech forum isn't exactly the best way to achieve nuetral results.

    So regardless of the results in this thread, doesn't change the fact that the usage of the word is wrong. And the fact that you succumb to improper usage, doesn't mean other people have to, or should in any way shape or form, understand what you are implying by falsely conveying your thoughts on a forum, or elsewhere. And the fact that you have an issue with being corrected on the correct usage of said word, speaks volumes.

    Also, it is these types of behaviors that make our generation look bad. And it is. This is why we are looked upon as lazy, ill-informed, and flat out stupid. And our generation is. Like when I ring up at a cash register, I am appauled some people can't do basic math to give me the change I am owed, without the assistance of a calculator. Sometimes you just have to step back and say what the eff is going on here.

    Also, with the word discography, it doesn't even have to mean from the same artist. It can be from a label, an era, genre, etc. So there's a nice little flaw in your 'context'.

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