who plans on flashing back to stock and going with the official froyo?


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  1. jhat3k1

    jhat3k1 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    who is staying and who is going? I a on the fence right now.

    Would the process just require using the RUU to flash back to stock and waiting for the update? I am currently all the way rooted and running the Cyanogen nightly.
     

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  2. Lady756

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    Do we need to flash back to stock? I'm a little confused on that one.

    When I first read that Froyo might be coming tomorrow, I was excited, but now I'm thinking about the fact that I'll have to give up free wireless tethering, my FPS fix, all my themes, etc. I just rooted this past weekend.

    I
     
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    jhat3k1 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    i know.....its going to be a tough decision. I think I will just stick with the cyanogen mod until something compelling makes me switch.
     
  4. uniquenameEVO

    uniquenameEVO Well-Known Member

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    It will take less than 6 hours (my personal guesstimate) before there is a "stock with root" rom available.
     
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    jhat3k1 Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    i absolutely love being part of the android community. The moders are great, fast and totally awesome!
     
  6. exBBuser

    exBBuser Well-Known Member

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    Not me.
     
  7. mitchellvii

    mitchellvii Well-Known Member

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    Well, I hear that Sprint is adding in all sorts of goodies that may make this appealing. My issue is that I really don't care for Sense as I find it cumbersome and cartoonish. Now if Sprint adds things one finds in LauncherPro + the Sense widgets I may be sorely tempted.
     
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    Quick question guys. Is there a FPS fix for the latest Cyano RC froyo?
     
  9. wake69

    wake69 Well-Known Member

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    I like being rooted, and believe that any froyo rom made will be better than stock
     
  10. novox77

    novox77 Leeeroy Jennnkinnns! VIP Member

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    Yeah. People. Read the above quote again. There's no point going back to stock froyo because shortly after the official release, someone will add superuser to it. So you can stay rooted and enjoy the stock rom.

    I believe adding su to a rom is reta-rdedly easy. It should be available within minutes of the stock ROM being available.
     
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    X2
     
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    I'm thinking about it, but I probably won't unless sprint gets 4G in my area before Cyanogen has it working.
     
  13. Unclm311

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    I just finally flashed to the CM6 yesterday... and I have to say I officially hate sense now. I can't believe I ever cared for it. Short answer: No. :)
     
  14. swazedahustla

    swazedahustla Well-Known Member

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    Not me.........Why would anyone with root want to unroot and get the update and risk NEVER being able to root again, just to get it. If you were to do that then you probably have no idea what root means and don't need it.
     
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    What do u mean I been on RC since Monday I believe,and my fps are no lower than 50,I average 53 most of the time.
     
  16. Lady756

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    Can you explain to me how one would risk never being able to root again by going back to the stock rom? I'm not trying to be a smartass, but I've seen several people say it and I was wondering the reason behind it.
     
  17. swazedahustla

    swazedahustla Well-Known Member

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    Well you can be sure sprint/htc knows the loopholes that were used to gain root for all of us. So with this update they will add something to the update that kills root. So you would have to wait for someone to find an alternative way to root. And being that most have root and wont risk losing it, it might be a long wait. It wouldn't be a high priority on dev's list. They would be trying to implement the update into their respective ROMs, and perhaps later on try and discover new root for those who lost it.
     
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  18. Lady756

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    Thanks for the explanation...appreciate it!
     
  19. novox77

    novox77 Leeeroy Jennnkinnns! VIP Member

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    To best explain this, we start from the beginning. No one has root to the Evo. Hackers start analyzing the software on the phone poking around for weaknesses. In an ideal world, all software is perfectly secure, and there's no way to gain root access. But in reality, nothing is ever 100% secure. Eventually someone will find a way to obtain root access.

    From there, that person will develop a separate program/process designed to exploit that weakness so that other people can easily obtain root access. Utilities like unrevoked, simpleroot, etc were created so that we can all break into our phones and make the changes so that we keep root access. Without these pioneering hackers to discover the exploit, no one would ever be able to root their phone.

    Once an exploit is discovered, it can be fixed. So typically when you update your phone with a new release, a fix is part of that release. Once you're updated, and the fix is in place, you won't be able to use that old exploit anymore. You now have to wait for a hacker to figure out a NEW exploit on your current version of the software. There's no guarantee that a new vulnerability will be found, or how long it will take to find it. That is why there's a chance you might never be able to root your phone again.

    If you are currently rooted, you don't want to accept a stock update for 2 main reasons:

    1) the stock update expects an old stock build. A rooted phone is not a known state for the phone, so the update may get confused by something and crash. That creates the possibility of a bricked phone.

    2) assuming the update works, it will overwrite the system files that give you root access. To get it back, you have to hope that a hacker can break into the updated version.

    If you are currently rooted, and you really want the features of the upcoming stock update, the best thing to do is SIT TIGHT. You don't even need to wait that long. The difference between a stock rom and a rooted stock rom is very minor. The developers and/or hackers can package the "root" with a stock rom very easily. This process DOES NOT REQUIRE a hacker to break into the new 2.2 system. Doing things AS ROOT is much easier than trying to OBTAIN ROOT.

    In most situations, you don't want to give up your root powers. The only time to do it is if you are in a situation where you need to take advantage of your warranty.
     
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  20. sfasu77

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    Great reply! Learn something new everyday.
     

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