Who's signing up for the Chrome OS project?


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  1. sergey

    sergey Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    I just signed up to see if I can participate in the CR-48 pilot program. It would be really cool if I got this.

    I'm using my girlfriends macbook, would be nice to get something new and cool.

    Anybody else sign up? Hear from them?

    I don't think I qualified- I got a "We'll let you know as soon as possible if you qualify..." Feels like finding a job all over again.
     

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    johnlgalt Antidisestablishmentarian VIP Member

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    I think that is the response everyone is getting - it is what I got as well.
     
  3. sergey

    sergey Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    They've already started to ship!

    Apparently the first few people applied and it just showed up, next-day air.

    Lucky bastards...

    Google Cr-48 Chrome OS laptop now shipping to the lucky few -- Engadget

    I wonder if they flat out reject people who use an iPhone or use any browser other than chrome... :p

    I started using chrome after I heard about this- it's not bad, but it sucks that some sites don't support chrome.
     
  4. johnlgalt

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    who knows?
     
  5. mikedt

    mikedt 你好 Guide

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    Am I the only one who is unimpressed by this thing?

    As I understand the CR-48, it's a 12inch laptop with just a browser, nothing else. No local applications or local storage of documents, music, photos, movies etc. No internet connection and it becomes a 12inch paperweight. I also believe it relies on Google Docs for office productivity. So what happens if Google Docs is not available in a particular location? e.g China... Ooops!!

    What about cost? I know Google are giving away/loaning free samples for evaluation at the moment. If it costs as much as a similar sized laptop running Windows or a full Linux OS like Ubuntu, then it's a fail IMO.

    The thing is I cant really see what Google is trying to achieve with this browser only Chrome OS. IMO they should be aiming to be getting Android running on laptops. Which has local storage and local applications, and is NOT totally reliant on a permanent internet connection for everything.
     
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  6. Bob Maxey

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    I think I must agree. I never thought much of the cloud concept. I want full control over my documents and in some cases, they must stay on my system because of NDA issues and contract requirements specified by my clients.

    Not so sure Chrome is better than Windows, anyway.

    Bob Maxey
     
  7. princetonbc

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    would love to but it is only for US citizens.
     
  8. TxTazDad

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    THe whole basis of the Chrome OS is to BE cloudbased!! The whole point is to run everything there so it's always backed up & never lost due to hardware failure, loss, etc. Most Beta projects (PC wise) are targeted at IT type people that will report more accurately what bugs and/or workarounds they encounter. While it can be fun & interesting, you are also a "guinea pig", they're called Betas for a reason. Some can be downright annoying and/or more trouble than it's worth. Just my .02
     
  9. mikedt

    mikedt 你好 Guide

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    And if there is no Google cloud computing services available? One is up sh*t creek without a paddle. e.g. Try using a cloud based/web apps Google Chrome OS computer for office productivity here in China... forget it!

    I do accept that cloud computing has it's uses for backups. Which I do using Apple's MobileMe and iDisk, mainly because it's freely accesible here. Plus I'm actually cloud computing now, by posting this comment into the Android Forums. ;)

    If the Chrome OS laptops are priced significantly cheaper than Windows machines, like say half the price. I think they may have something, provided one is guaranteed an always on internet connection, or not try use it in a place where Google Docs, etc. are unavailable.
     
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    From Foxnews:

    Stop worrying about when the hard drive in your computer will die. Google wants to kill it permanently anyway.
    The new Google Chrome operating system, which was unveiled Tuesday, as well as hints and suggestions from Apple and Microsoft, offers us a preview of the PC of the future. And it will come without that familiar whirring disk that has been the data heart of the PC for the past 25 years.
    The Chrome OS will at first be available on all-black laptops from Samsung and Acer. And because the new platform stores everything -- files, applications, data bits and bytes, literally everything -- on online servers rather than on your home or office PC, those new PCs running it won't require gobs of storage. In fact, they won't require any storage at all.
    The new Google laptops come without hard drives, in other words. \


    Article
     
  11. glockjs

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    one just arrived on my doorstep today :O....can't find that other thread where the guy left the link. wanted to thank him :/

    waiting for it to charge up as i type this :)
     
  12. smacky

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    The laptop is not made for everyone. Think of it as an iPad (or any other tablet) with a keyboard. I know many students that could use one of these and be fine with it. This isn't for the power user that needs Photoshop, the best graphics card for gaming, etc. It will be a niche, much like tablets are right now.

    It's not something that's meant to replace a proper computer, but just for people that are always on the go and just need to check quick things and word process. Which is what the interview questions were geared towards, those that have a fast lifestyle. If your job requires you to sit in front of a computer for eight hours a day, you're not gonna get one. If you're a student or someone that would benefit from using a tablet everyday to get shit done, you'll probably get one.

    Most people on here don't know how to sync contacts with a cloud based service. Clearly cloud computing is not for everyone.
     
  13. johnlgalt

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    Cost will be worked out later, I am sure - but since the hardware is outsourced (Samsung and Acer) then you can bet you'll at the very least pay for the hardware.

    But, think about it - no HD to pay for, much lower resource usage in terms of battery life (Heh) and everything is in the Cloud. No more worrying about backups and such.

    I have more to say, but the next two replies say a lot of what I am going to say, so I'll just highlight their points.

    If nothing else, you're not paying for Windows (7 currently costs retailers an average of $80) and you're not paying for a HD either. That alone means you can probably get a much smaller battery and still have it outlast current laptops (excluding those with SSDs, and you know the price of SSDs currently, right?)

    So, yeah, I'd bet my next 2 paychecks of over $5000 that these are going to be significantly lower priced than your average laptops.

    Excellent retort. Your points are well considered. However, I can add that I, as an IT professional *and* grad student, should have been, theoretically, a good candidate - but I think it went more to first come first serve. I have extensive beta testing experience, including being an official Beta tester for Symantec products, testing Vista and then later on Windows 7, Malwarebytes' Antimalware, and a whole slew of other products (currently including Display Fusion for PC as well as a few Android apps - even one or two from here) and also being twice accepted into Motorola's Beta testing program for the D1, first for the VCQ issues and now for the FroYo nextgen as well.

    I've also taken it upon myself to beta test numerous other products (I won a free Fx 4 T-shirt for my testing of Firefox 4, since I am almost always running the Minefield nightlies as my regular daily browser since Minefield for Fx 3.x), and lots of other products, some of which I am able to give direct feedback on and some of which I am not. I worked in IT for 12+ years before going back to school to get a mashup of degrees leading up to a Ph. D. in Bioinformatics (which I hope to start after finishing my current Master's in Biotechnology) and more than 30% of the software on my computer (desktop) is at any given time a Beta of some form, shape, etc.

    So, yeah, I think it was FCFS more than anything else. The way I figure it, by the time the link started making the rounds on sites like Reddit / Engadget etc. several tens of thousands had probably already signed up for the thing.

    Still, it is definitely a niche product, but one that I would laboriously put through its paces - I have internet access anywhere I go, and if I don't have it, well, I always have my D1 w/ tethering, so yeah, I have it pretty much anywhere I go.
     
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    johnlgalt Antidisestablishmentarian VIP Member

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    And before anyone thinks I am trying to show off, I'm not. My point was that based upon the supposition that it was geared toward IT folk, I *should* have been a good fit.

    I personally think they simply ran out of the laptops before they could screen all applicants, because too many of us techie / geeky folks jumped on that link as soon as we found out about it (I know I did).
     
  15. mikedt

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    I would say the Chrome OS devices are significantly worse for productivity than an iPad. At least with the iPad and other tablets(except for the infamous browser only JooJoo), they do have local offline functionality, productivity, entertainment and storage capabilities.

    OK our data maybe totally safe in the cloud. Not much good if we can't get to it though? Either due to no internet connectivity, say on a flight. Or worse the appropriate cloud services are just not available in a particular country or region. So many of Google's cloud services are just not available everywhere.

    Say a businessman from the US with his CR-48 Chrome OS laptop, comes to China on business. No internet on the flight, so he can't get any work done here. He tries to use Google Docs for work, Google Calendar for his scheduling and Picasa Web some images he may need....Sorry!! no chance. Maybe he's lucky enough to have a VPN or TOR? Provided Chrome OS has those capabilities. Also internet availability in China can be very sporadic to say the least.

    I think Chrome OS could be OK for people in the US, those who may not be doing any international travel.

    BTW I couldn't use a cloud dependant device for my own work. No internet in the classrooms, and only rather-slow wired internet in the office. No Wi-Fi anywhere here.
     
  16. johnlgalt

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    You're acting like this is a real world product that has been out 3 years before the cloud has come into existence. What part do you not understand of this being a beta?

    We know it is not for everyone, they know it is not for everyone, but it sure as heck will benefit those who can make use of it.

    Let's face it, if you have absolutely nothing but local access, unless you're typing a love letter from your heart, or a document that needs no external access (and let's face reality for a second, how many times are you going to make a sales presentation mock-up without having to access facts and figures that reside somewhere on a network other than your local drive?), unless you're the CEO, CIO, IIO, CFO, and manager, employee and grunt all in one, are you truly going to be able to make your document from completely local material?

    So China is out. Good. What about the other 15x countries in the world? Do I say a product is simply not worth even attempting to make b/c China doesn't allow access to Google anything?

    Sounds like you're pushing for Android to go away too....if you take your POV and extend it to the extremely far end of the spectrum. But, TBH, it sounds more like you're trying to justify the primary negative factor that affects you b/c of your location more than anything else.

    If this is a proof of concept, one of the things they are obviously going to be looking at is how the laptop can be used when there is no Internet access. Obviously, if 75% of people start complaining about not being able to use it 50% of the time due to a lack of Internet access, they'll need to re-think their strategy....

    And the idea of a cloud is not so far off- we used to use them back in the day, they were called servers, which we would access via our DTs....and yes, even back then, those servers would go down too.
     
  17. Super_Six_Two

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    I'm sure not everyone had the opportunity to listen to the presentation by Google on the device, but if you did, you would know that they have addressed this. Google docs as well as other services already do or soon will work offline.
     
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    kewl, thanks for that.
     
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    ^^^^^

    Why would I be pushing for Android to go away?

    (1) You will note from my profile on the left that I have an Android Samsung Galaxy S.
    (2) Android is NOT entirely dependant on the internet and Google cloud services for functionality, which Google Chrome OS is. Android has full functionality and productivity without ever been connected to the internet.
    (3) I'm a member of these here Android Forums.

    I do know it's still beta, and wont be final for about another 6 months or so. However I keep hearing the rather USA biased tech press and blogs constantly gushing how great Chrome OS is going to be, and how it's going to kill Microsoft Windows. Yet when I look at how it could possibly fit into my particular international IT needs, from what I can see so far it's just such a fail. Unless there are any radical changes to it, like local offline productivity capabilities.

    "Unless you're the CEO, CIO, IIO, CFO, and manager, employee and grunt all in one?"

    Yes I am actually, it's called self employed. :)
     
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    As long as I can save the docs locally, without having to go through Google itself. I should be OK then
     
  21. Super_Six_Two

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    Not sure how they are handiling saving as there is limited local storage, but they made it clear that you will be able to work on the documents without being connected.

    Also, anyone who thinks this will replace windows is wrong. I think it is a great platform and will help to form future OS technologies, but currently, someone can't live 100% in the cloud. Although, I think I would be fine with my windows desktop at home, and one of these on the go, I cant remember the last time I used my laptop for anything other than web browsing, note taking, basic document editing, and some media consumption.
     
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    after using it for a few hours i can say it does what it's designed to do rather well. its a small portable device with awesome battery life designed for internet use.

    my biggest issue is lack of rdp/vnc. you dont need a powerful mobile device when you have a powerful home pc that you can access via remote.
     
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    Just signed up myself. I love the concept in how it's really streamlined and the fact that I RARELY do anything other than web browsing. Would be cool to test it out, though we already have a desk top, laptop and netbook so another computer in our cramped apartment would definitely be overkill! (I wish I could just download the OS and put it on the netbook to test it out. Anyone know when it'll be released, or is it already?)
     
  24. Super_Six_Two

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    The probably wont release it for another 3-6 months.
     
  25. NOLA_Droid

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    It is my understanding that there was an initial shipment of 60,000 units to Google, with more to come. The application process is still open, and will be open until the 21st of this month.
     

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