Why not do it on the phone

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by anderson.mcdaniel, Jan 16, 2010.

  1. anderson.mcdaniel

    anderson.mcdaniel Active Member
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    I've been wondering why the instructions for installing anything that isn't on the market tell you to connect your droid to your computer and use the terminal? That's absolutely unnessary. Is it a ploy to scare people off?

    When I first got the droid, I plugged it in to the computer to move a bunch of music, but haven't plugged it in but once or twice. I've found that most everything can be done from the phone, including rooting, updating roms, installing non-market apps, etc.

    Why do the howtos for everything tell me to do it from the computer?

    Maybe I'm missing something...
     

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  2. vincentp

    vincentp Well-Known Member
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    I'm honestly not sure. I've wondered the same thing. It seems like it's just as easy, if not easier to do many things from the phone itself.
     
  3. wsbsteven

    wsbsteven Well-Known Member
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    I have also done everything from the phone instead of using the computer. When I see something like this:

    adb push YouTube.odex /sdcard/YouTube.odex
    adb shell
    su
    mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
    cp /system/app/YouTube.odex /system/app/YouTube.obak
    cp /sdcard/YouTube.odex /system/app/YouTube.odex
    mount -o ro,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
    sync

    I turn it into this:

    Download the file
    Terminal
    su
    mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
    busybox cp /system/app/YouTube.odex /system/app/YouTube.obak
    busybox cp /sdcard/download/YouTube.odex /system/app/YouTube.odex
    mount -o ro,remount -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
    sync

    I have to replace the cp commands with busybox cp commands and I changed the copy location from /sdcard to /sdcard/download because that is where my browser saves files. That is all it takes to eliminate the usb hookup to the computer.
     
  4. messenger13

    messenger13 Well-Known Member
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    It isn't unnecessary ... nor is it necessary. Either works, so whatever. I use whatever tool is available to me at that moment. Then again, I'm an IT geek. I've been downloading since 300 baud modems. :eek: Some people (and I'm guessing it's the majority) would rather download software on their PC. The PC is much more familiar to them.

    Not sure why the rant though. If anything, these lame instructions to use your PC should make you feel superior knowing that "there's a better way". ;)
     
  5. messenger13

    messenger13 Well-Known Member
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    And I use Root Explorer and don't have to open my Terminal Emulator and type a single thing. Ain't options great? :cool:
     
  6. anderson.mcdaniel

    anderson.mcdaniel Active Member
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    True, not unnessary. And wasn't trying to rant, just seemed like all the directions take me the long way;)

    And I'm jealous about the 300 baud modem, first one I got was 2400:)
     
  7. Jim Dawson

    Jim Dawson Well-Known Member
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    You guys must be really young, my first modem was a 110 baud acoustically coupled one. :)
     
  8. JDW

    JDW Well-Known Member
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    Seems that pretty much the main demographic here in Droid-ville.

    I remember the acoustic couplers, green mono-screens, DOS and Dial-up Bulletin boards!

    We're dinosaurs bro...
     
  9. Gunner

    Gunner Well-Known Member
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    Also remember the 300 baud days. My bro ran a BBS out of the house off an Apple IIe w/ a 10MB external hard drive. The hard drive cost like $300 and was in a box the size of a stereo receiver. That IIe went to college w/ me. Finally getting a 56k modem felt like getting broadband back then.
     
  10. booster

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    Anybody else around when these were the hottest thing out there?
    [​IMG]
     
  11. tpriddy

    tpriddy Well-Known Member
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    It was a magic time.
     
  12. Talk about text messaging! Kind of crazy how we've went full circle.
     
  13. anderson.mcdaniel

    anderson.mcdaniel Active Member
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    You guys ARE old!:)
    I remember going to the library to get lists of local bbs phone numbers to connect to with my sweet 386/66 and my 2400 modem, but teletype is a bit before my time. Ahhh junior high school was an innocent time (untl I got on that ONE bbs!)
     
  14. JDW

    JDW Well-Known Member
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    Yeah, Teletype was a lil' bit before me...
     

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