Why root?


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  1. madmonk

    madmonk Well-Known Member This Topic's Starter

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    OK, so I waited for froyo on HTC desire locked to Orange, and got me a flashlight. Great.

    What advantage OTHER than being able to move apps from internal memory to the SD card, does a rooted phone offer please. I thought Froyo would do this, but it clearly only does it with a small number of apps.

    There's a thread on the forum that if followed will apparently allow this transfer with non-rooted phones.

    So why root? (I'm not being facetious or rhetorical, I'm curious - I cant find the answer. I'm clearly missing something and all this talk of flashing ROM's is decidedly placing me outside my comfort zone.)

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  2. sookster54

    sookster54 Well-Known Member

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    Some useful apps need root, like Titanium backup, screenshot apps (saves from plugging into PC to use the SDK ddms) and I'm liking AnReboot so I don't have to wear out the power button and droidwall (a firewall app) to prevent certain apps from accessing 3G since I'm on a limited data plan. Moving apps to the SD card doesn't need root, it needs 2.2 but making a different partition on the SDcard and making the phone think it's the internal storage is another thing which is much nicer than the standard apps2sd.
     
  3. Eris Ed

    Eris Ed Well-Known Member

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    Rooting gives you a choice between several really cool custom ROM's, each has Android at it's core but all have unique features like the ability to change system text fonts, different notification bar icons, etc.
     
  4. DesireMe

    DesireMe Well-Known Member

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    I'm still not getting the big fuss about rooting either. I'm not happy with T-Mobiles 2.2, but can't see the attraction of rooting. I can do screenshots already, not interested in titanium backup. So all i'll get is a streamline OS and be able to change the notification bar?!?
     
  5. mr-mixalot

    mr-mixalot Active Member

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    Trust me rooting opens up the world of custom roms that make you phone so much more, better than the standard network provider bloatware you phone comes with. Your phone will work better and more efficiently and truly becomes IMO 'great'
     
  6. SUroot

    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

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    Well titanium back up would only be useful If rooted anyway. If you were chopping and changing roms often. That's what its for.

    I like root. The custom.roms are good. I can run android without any HTC sense it apps. Customised status bar is nice too.

    Mainly though, for me, its how I can configure my CPU to behave differently and also with a custom kernel I can run overclocked at the same power consumption as the HTC sense Rom, or I can run at the same speed as HTC with lower consumption
     
  7. DesireMe

    DesireMe Well-Known Member

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    What sort of speeds are you getting on Quadrant? I ran mine and it's never been below 1175, normally around 1270. I like the idea of less power, but there's some nice HTC elements i think i'd prefer. Sure, i don't like what T-Mobile have done, but not sure it warrants rooting etc.
     
  8. SUroot

    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

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    1736 currently. I once got 1855 on an older version of this rom but more apps and some bug fixes have brought it down.
     
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  9. yenrod

    yenrod Well-Known Member

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    Like wot does rooting a Desire actually DO ?

    I can still make a phone call !

    I can still use apps - lots of them too ;)

    I have sticks of memory on my SD card (16gb's..)

    IF - i do get short on memory then I uninstall THEN re-install if & when I need it !!!
     
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  10. SUroot

    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

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    Thought I'd answered that one already.
     
  11. Rastaman-FB

    Rastaman-FB Well-Known Member

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    if you see no need to root dont root.

    for me there is many benefits to rooting but thats because of how i am with my phone
    for standard day to day use then an unrooted device is fine for most
     
  12. kolipe

    kolipe Well-Known Member

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    What's the speed you are talking here about? How do we find out?
     
  13. Rastaman-FB

    Rastaman-FB Well-Known Member

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    quadrant
    hes running a pretty stripped rom with a kernel from the gods. its rapid
    im running leedroid 2.2a and again thats fast but not as fast as that (mine is a sense rom)
     
  14. SUroot

    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

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    This is the HAVS kernel, which historically has been unstable.

    The 1190 SVS I can clock to 1152 without random reboots, but this HAVS is stable and I cannot match its Quadrant with the SVS, so I am very happy with it.
     
  15. Jammy

    Jammy Well-Known Member

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    Stable HAVS?!

    May switch back to Defrost :D

    When I used HAVS, my battery was twice as good as it is stock.
     
  16. SUroot

    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

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    Yep. Finally. Most testers there have found this
     
  17. Eris Ed

    Eris Ed Well-Known Member

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    It was mentioned briefly above, but what are the benefits in terms of phone storage? I guess you can 'fool' the phone into using an SD card partition as phone storage, are there any hazards/problems with that? For example, can widgets run from SD or do they fail unless in phone memory? Storage space would be the biggest reason to root, assuming there's a benefit to be had.
     
  18. No_u

    No_u Well-Known Member

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    I'm only rooting if android 3.0 doesn't get released in an official update by HTC..
     
  19. Rastaman-FB

    Rastaman-FB Well-Known Member

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    im running leedroid 2.2a with a2sd+ and notice no difference with apps being on the ext partition of the sdcard
     
  20. Jammy

    Jammy Well-Known Member

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    No matter what, rooted phones will get Gingerbread waaay before the official release...
     
  21. SUroot

    SUroot Well-Known Member Developer

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    Ditto
     
  22. widehead

    widehead Well-Known Member

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    Here's what I've gleaned from the forums I visit:

    1) Rooting = geekporn. "I'm running weedroid with a hyperlightspeed kernel running at +9000...."
    2) Bricking a perfectly good phone. "Hey can anyone help me? My phone doesn't work after I wrestled my way into the Linux subsystem without knowing what I was doing."
    3) Individualisation (of a platform that currently has the largest share of the smartphone sales in the USA). "I'm not a sheep! I use Android! Baa!"

    And yes, I am joking (a bit) and yes, I am a little confused myself as to what everyone is banging on about or as to why it's necessary.

    I took one look at the "how to root your desire" guides and knew instantly that rooting was not for me. Most guides seem to have a problem with infinite regression i.e. each "how to" guide contains a "how to" guide which contains a "how to" guide and so on infinitum. :D ("I want to root!" "Cool, here's a guide!" "Thanks, dude. It says I need a goldcard. What the hell is a goldcard?" "Here's a guide for you!" "Oh, forget it!")

    I'm sure I'm missing out. :(
     
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  23. Markhypnos

    Markhypnos Well-Known Member

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    Does that require root?
     
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  25. sookster54

    sookster54 Well-Known Member

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    Rooting isn't hard at all, the gold card part IS a pain in the butt but lekky posted a link to a one click gold card and it works. Some phones don't need a gold card if it isn't branded. It'd be even easier if Universal Androot worked on Desires, that thing is so simple.

    I bet you look at the Froyo RUU guide and think "sheesh, I have to have HTC Sync, drivers and the correct RUU? I don't need it!".
     

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